How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #168 on: December 18, 2025, 10:01:38 PM »
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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #169 on: Yesterday at 05:16:54 PM »
A few posts ago I tried to get this thread back on track.
I'll try again.
Why not have a grown up discussion about the points I'm raising?

This is the 'Lovelady' image Bart Kamp produced from a large print obtained for him from the collection of Richard Sprague.



This image seems to include an incredible amount of detail, particularly on the shirt of 'Lovelady'.
However, the print from which Kamp got this 'Lovelady' image is of such poor quality that is very hard to understand how this amount of detail could be present when far superior pictures show no such detail.
Kamp alludes to this contradiction in his description of how he came across the Sprague print:

"This...Scan of a Couch film still at first looks very harsh and doesn’t overall have much information, but it does happen to show a lot regarding our illustrious duo. This print comes from the Richard E. Sprague Collection from the National Archives."

How can it be that the Sprague print "doesn't overall have much information", yet the part of it showing Lovelady's shirt does?

This is a copy of the Sprague print that Kamp used to get his image of Lovelady from:



Look at the poor quality of this image in general. How washed out it is and how there is a lack of fine detail. As Kamp points out, there is not much overall information in this print, as it is of such poor quality.
In contrast, here is an image from the Couch footage taken from "Four Days In November":



Look at how superior this image is in quality, look at how much more detail is present in this image, how much more information is present overall.
One would have thought that the more detailed picture of 'Lovelady' would come from this superior image.
BUT THIS IS NOT THE CASE.
The picture of 'Lovelady' that has the very fine detail (of the distinctive check pattern of his shirt) comes from the inferior image.
How can that be?

This is a crop of 'Lovelady' from the Sprague print and 4 Days.



How was Kamp able to obtain such fine detail from the inferior Sprague print when no such detail is present in the far superior copy from 4 Days?

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #170 on: Yesterday at 10:05:15 PM »
In case everyone has forgotten, somewhere up above I report on my exchange with Bart Kamp in which he explains what he did. I don't know him well at all, but he's always seemed gentlemanly and approachable. I just used the contact form at the Prayer Man site and heard back by email a couple of days later. If you folks think Bart "faking" the images is an actual possibiliy - which I'm betting you don't - WHY DON'T YOU FOLLOW UP WITH BART? (We know why you don't: You know full-well this is nonsense, but you're having too much fun to let it go. That, and the fact that you're afraid to take your accusatons directly to Bart.) Prove me wrong and CONTACT BART!
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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #171 on: Yesterday at 11:14:32 PM »
In case everyone has forgotten, somewhere up above I report on my exchange with Bart Kamp in which he explains what he did. I don't know him well at all, but he's always seemed gentlemanly and approachable. I just used the contact form at the Prayer Man site and heard back by email a couple of days later. If you folks think Bart "faking" the images is an actual possibiliy - which I'm betting you don't - WHY DON'T YOU FOLLOW UP WITH BART? (We know why you don't: You know full-well this is nonsense, but you're having too much fun to let it go. That, and the fact that you're afraid to take your accusatons directly to Bart.) Prove me wrong and CONTACT BART!


This is the 'Lovelady' image Bart Kamp produced from a large print obtained for him from the collection of Richard Sprague.



This image seems to include an incredible amount of detail, particularly on the shirt of 'Lovelady'.
However, the print from which Kamp got this 'Lovelady' image is of such poor quality that is very hard to understand how this amount of detail could be present when far superior pictures show no such detail.
Kamp alludes to this contradiction in his description of how he came across the Sprague print:

"This...Scan of a Couch film still at first looks very harsh and doesn’t overall have much information, but it does happen to show a lot regarding our illustrious duo. This print comes from the Richard E. Sprague Collection from the National Archives."

How can it be that the Sprague print "doesn't overall have much information", yet the part of it showing Lovelady's shirt does?

This is a copy of the Sprague print that Kamp used to get his image of Lovelady from:



Look at the poor quality of this image in general. How washed out it is and how there is a lack of fine detail. As Kamp points out, there is not much overall information in this print, as it is of such poor quality.
In contrast, here is an image from the Couch footage taken from "Four Days In November":



Look at how superior this image is in quality, look at how much more detail is present in this image, how much more information is present overall.
One would have thought that the more detailed picture of 'Lovelady' would come from this superior image.
BUT THIS IS NOT THE CASE.
The picture of 'Lovelady' that has the very fine detail (of the distinctive check pattern of his shirt) comes from the inferior image.
How can that be?

This is a crop of 'Lovelady' from the Sprague print and 4 Days.



How was Kamp able to obtain such fine detail from the inferior Sprague print when no such detail is present in the far superior copy from 4 Days?

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #173 on: Today at 12:05:20 AM »

  Not only does Kamp have a problem with the pattern, the jacket is a light color.  Lovelady's shirt was Dark colored.

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #174 on: Today at 02:39:35 AM »
Not only does Kamp have a problem with the pattern, the jacket is a light color.  Lovelady's shirt was Dark colored.

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

It's funny when one tinfoil-hat JFKA conspiracy theorist accuses another tinfoil-hat JFKA conspiracy theorist of fabricating evidence.

Keep up the good work.

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #175 on: Today at 03:36:04 AM »
Dear Sonderführer Storing,

It's funny when one tinfoil-hat JFKA conspiracy theorist accuses another tinfoil-hat JFKA conspiracy theorist of fabricating evidence.

Keep up the good work.

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