How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?

[Tom Graves]

With respect to, "..... people had remained in place for about twenty seconds....", I ask you to review the Towner Film vs the Wiegman Film with respect to individuals movement on/around the Island. And this includes Fedora Man. I continue urging you to actually DO THE RESEARCH and review the JFK Assassination Films/Images. It is obvious that your JFK Assassination Image foundation is currently lacking. Please get off of your duff and do the legit research work and catch up. ALL of this is available on You Tube. Stop screwing around with Lego Car visual aids, overlays, and "shadow dancing" guess work. Try actually examining good copies of the JFK assassination films.

Dear Comrade Storing,

Why did you leave out my word, "If"?

Are you dishonest, or just stupid?

Here's my complete sentence. I've done a little editing in a (probably futile) attempt to help you understand:

"I contend that if the gaggle of about ten shoulder-to-shoulder people [that we see in Wiegman] had remained in place for about twenty [more] seconds after the final shot, we wouldn't be able to see any part of your MYSTO "ABANDONED" GETAWAY CAR in any part of Couch-Darnell [, either]"

-- Tom

PS "Royell Storing -- the Fox News of JFKA researchers."

[Dan O'meara]

I quote Bart:

"The bald patch is a total giveaway.

I used 4 different sharpening techniques in photoshop."

Whatever, carry on.

(It is kind of a total giveaway.)

I see that, whilst I was on holiday, we lost a deluded blowhard. I'd say "Good Riddance" but he'll be back as he likes to 'retire' every now and then just to see who'll miss him.

"The bald patch is a total giveaway."

Why is this such an idiotic thing to post?
The point of this thread is to question the validity of the image that Bart Kamp 'sharpened', that appears to show Shelley and Lovelady on the Elm St Ext. about 25 seconds after the shooting. It is an image taken from "a huge Couch film print in Richard E Sprague’s collection".
The image appears to show the distinctive chequered pattern of Lovelady's shirt and his distinctive bald patch.



The issue is this - there is no other image, taken from any version of the Couch footage, that shows this level of detail regarding Lovelady's shirt and bald patch.
It might then be assumed that Kamp's Lovelady image was taken from the best version of the Couch film and that is why it's got so much detail.
But this is not the case.
In fact, the opposite is true - Kamp's Lovelady image comes from one of the worst versions of Couch. The image it is taken from is completely washed out and has no fine detail in it - apart from Lovelady's shirt and bald patch!!



Look at how poor this image is. Look at how washed out it is.
There are many versions of the Couch footage on the internet, all of varying quality and most of a superior quality to this 'Sprague print' version.
The best quality version I've come across is from "Four Days In November". Look at how superior this image is when compared to the Sprague print. Look at how clear it is and how much detail is contained in this image.



However, when I focus on the two individuals in question, and in particular 'Lovelady', we see no sign of a chequered pattern or a bald patch:



This leads me to conclude that the image 'sharpened' by Kamp has been manipulated in such a way as to create the chequered pattern and bald patch. These features are not present on any extant version of the Couch footage I can find.
Whether deliberately or inadvertently, the Sprague image is fake. The original version of Couch does not show a chequered pattern OR a bald patch. These features have been added to the Sprague print and to that print alone.

All of this was pointed out to the Deluded One and all he could muster was - "The bald patch is a total giveaway."
How can it be that no other version of the Couch footage has the chequered pattern or the bald patch? -  "The bald patch is a total giveaway."
How can one of the worst copies of the Couch footage produce an image with such fine detail? -  "The bald patch is a total giveaway."
How can Kamp's 'fake' image be used to identify Shelley and Lovelady? -  "The bald patch is a total giveaway."

[Tom Graves]

[...]

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

You and Comrade Storing are on the same side, now, because he no longer wants the two guys who are walking/running towards the Elm Street Extension about 25 seconds after the final shot in Couch-Darnell to be William Shelley and Billy Lovelady, but . . . gasp . . . THE GETAWAY-CAR-ABANDONING, missing-everything "SNIPER IN THE BUSHES" and his SPOTTER!!!

LOL!

-- Tom

[Royell Storing]

I see that, whilst I was on holiday, we lost a deluded blowhard. I'd say "Good Riddance" but he'll be back as he likes to 'retire' every now and then just to see who'll miss him.

"The bald patch is a total giveaway."

Why is this such an idiotic thing to post?
The point of this thread is to question the validity of the image that Bart Kamp 'sharpened', that appears to show Shelley and Lovelady on the Elm St Ext. about 25 seconds after the shooting. It is an image taken from "a huge Couch film print in Richard E Sprague’s collection".
The image appears to show the distinctive chequered pattern of Lovelady's shirt and his distinctive bald patch.



The issue is this - there is no other image, taken from any version of the Couch footage, that shows this level of detail regarding Lovelady's shirt and bald patch.
It might then be assumed that Kamp's Lovelady image was taken from the best version of the Couch film and that is why it's got so much detail.
But this is not the case.
In fact, the opposite is true - Kamp's Lovelady image comes from one of the worst versions of Couch. The image it is taken from is completely washed out and has no fine detail in it - apart from Lovelady's shirt and bald patch!!



Look at how poor this image is. Look at how washed out it is.
There are many versions of the Couch footage on the internet, all of varying quality and most of a superior quality to this 'Sprague print' version.
The best quality version I've come across is from "Four Days In November". Look at how superior this image is when compared to the Sprague print. Look at how clear it is and how much detail is contained in this image.



However, when I focus on the two individuals in question, and in particular 'Lovelady', we see no sign of a chequered pattern or a bald patch:



This leads me to conclude that the image 'sharpened' by Kamp has been manipulated in such a way as to create the chequered pattern and bald patch. These features are not present on any extant version of the Couch footage I can find.
Whether deliberately or inadvertently, the Sprague image is fake. The original version of Couch does not show a chequered pattern OR a bald patch. These features have been added to the Sprague print and to that print alone.

All of this was pointed out to the Deluded One and all he could muster was - "The bald patch is a total giveaway."
How can it be that no other version of the Couch footage has the chequered pattern or the bald patch? -  "The bald patch is a total giveaway."
How can one of the worst copies of the Couch footage produce an image with such fine detail? -  "The bald patch is a total giveaway."
How can Kamp's 'fake' image be used to identify Shelley and Lovelady? -  "The bald patch is a total giveaway."

   DAN - Good to have you back. Having an adult at the table making acute observations followed by educated opinions is always welcome.

[Royell Storing]

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

You and Comrade Storing are on the same side, now, because he no longer wants the two guys who are walking/running towards the Elm Street Extension about 25 seconds after the final shot in Couch-Darnell to be William Shelley and Billy Lovelady, but . . . gasp . . . THE GETAWAY-CAR-ABANDONING, missing-everything "SNIPER IN THE BUSHES" and his SPOTTER!!!

LOL!

-- Tom

   You asked me to fill in the blanks for you, and the above is what I get in return? Again, "Prove Me Wrong" regarding this car Not being on the Wiegman Film. Once we get close to the 11/22/63 anniversary, many of the Old Guard Heavy Hitters will stop by here to pay their respects. I'll run the Wiegman EVIDENCE by them when that time comes. Thus far, you have been unable to post any EVIDENCE to refute what I have found. THIS, is a much bigger discovery than you realize. There is no logical/innocent reason for a car to be coming down the Elm St Ext while the JFK Limo was still on Elm St. And then  this same car remained parked in a clearly posted, "NO PARKING At Any Time" zone well after traffic was flowing down Elm St? Also, how do you believe the shooter on the 6th Floor planned on exiting the TSBD and then leaving Dealey Plaza? Do the research and think this completely through.   

[Tom Graves]

You asked me to fill in the blanks for you, and the above is what I get in return? Again, "Prove Me Wrong" regarding this car Not being on the Wiegman Film. Once we get close to the 11/22/63 anniversary, many of the Old Guard Heavy Hitters will stop by here to pay their respects. I'll run the Wiegman EVIDENCE by them when that time comes. Thus far, you have been unable to post any EVIDENCE to refute what I have found. THIS, is a much bigger discovery than you realize. There is no logical/innocent reason for a car to be coming down the Elm St Ext while the JFK Limo was still on Elm St. And then this same car remained parked in a clearly posted, "NO PARKING At Any Time" zone well after traffic was flowing down Elm St? Also, how do you believe the shooter on the 6th Floor planned on exiting the TSBD and then leaving Dealey Plaza? Do the research and think this completely through.   

Dear Comrade Storing,

In case you missed it on the other thread:

To answer your question, there are ten or eleven people (who are, btw, about 20% smaller in Darnell than they are in Wiegman), standing shoulder-to-shoulder in front of your MYSTO "ABANDONED" 1958 PONTIAC BONNEVILLE GETAWAY CAR . . . gasp . . . on both the right and the left sides of the traffic light pole.

In addition to the fact that your MYSTO "ABANDONED" 1958 PONTIAC BONNEVILLE GETAWAY CAR is parked at a size-diminishing angle in Darnell, it is, just like the people standing in front of it, about 20% smaller in Darnell that it would be in Wiegman if they weren't standing shoulder-to-shoulder in front of it.

Hint: Ya gotta scroll down to it.

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,4597.40.html

-- Tom

PS At the 08:57 mark in the National Geographic Video, "Manhunt: The Search for JFK's Killer," as your MYSTO "ABANDONED" 1958 PONTIAC BONNEVILLE GETAWAY CAR is virtually surrounded by policemen, I mean cops, one can see that not only is the driver's side window all the way down, but there's a man sitting behind the wheel.

[Royell Storing]

  "...a man sitting behind the wheel"? Have you joined the Jake Maxwell Club? It's "observations" such as this that make me believe there is: (1) an issue regarding the detail of the JFK Assassination Images you are examining, (2) the monitor you are using, and/or (3) possibly your eyesight in general. And your additional "observation" claiming people are standing "shoulder to shoulder" forming a wall that COMPLETELY obstructs the view of a 17.5' x 4' vehicle is further proof as to (1), (2), and/or (3) above. For the record, there is NOBODY standing shoulder-to-shoulder with Fedora Man on his (L). The car in question would extend beyond Fedora Man's (L). This is why we can see the car parked on the other side of the street. You seriously need to upgrade your JFK Assassination Image Library. 

[Tom Graves]

  "...a man sitting behind the wheel"? Have you joined the Jake Maxwell Club? It's "observations" such as this that make me believe there is: (1) an issue regarding the detail of the JFK Assassination Images you are examining, (2) the monitor you are using, and/or (3) possibly your eyesight in general. And your additional "observation" claiming people are standing "shoulder to shoulder" forming a wall that COMPLETELY obstructs the view of a 17.5' x 4' vehicle is further proof as to (1), (2), and/or (3) above. For the record, there is NOBODY standing shoulder-to-shoulder with Fedora Man on his (L). The car in question would extend beyond Fedora Man's (L). This is why we can see the car parked on the other side of the street. You seriously need to upgrade your JFK Assassination Image Library.

Dear Comrade Storing,

More like 5', isn't it?

-- Tom