Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.

[Tom Graves]

You should be asking yourself why you are seeing a Couch Still Frame in Color when the Couch Film was shot in B/W.

Dear Comrade Storing,

Is there anything that the evil, evil CIA didn't alter?

-- Tom

[Tom Graves]

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

The guy walking up the steps wearing light-colored pants and the brown shirt is Bonnie Ray Williams. He testified to the Warren Commission that he came down from the fifth floor about 15 minutes after the assassination, and that he and some others were then taken by car to the courthouse to write up affidavits. Therefore, it would seem that the above scene (with Lovelady smoking a cigarette on the steps) was filmed by Robert Hughes significantly more than 30 minutes after the assassination.
 
-- Tom

[Royell Storing]

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

The guy walking up the steps wearing light-colored pants and the brown shirt is Bonnie Ray Williams. He testified to the Warren Commission that he came down from the fifth floor about 15 minutes after the assassination, and that he and some others were then taken by car to the courthouse to write up affidavits. Therefore, it would seem that the above scene (with Lovelady smoking a cigarette on the steps) was filmed by Robert Hughes significantly more than 30 minutes after the assassination.
 
-- Tom

     You're ID'ing someone from behind based on the color of their slacks? Seriously? This is just like ID'ing Calvery from behind on the TSBD Steps. Both ID's are pure guesswork. Also, who has ever claimed that Hughes was filming, "....significantly more than 30 minutes after the assassination"? (Other than yourself). Making stuff up will not solve this case.

[Tom Graves]

You're ID'ing someone from behind based on the color of their slacks? Seriously? This is just like ID'ing Calvery from behind on the TSBD Steps. Both ID's are pure guesswork. Also, who has ever claimed that Hughes was filming, "....significantly more than 30 minutes after the assassination"? (Other than yourself). Making stuff up will not solve this case.

Dear Comrade Storing,

Why don't you watch the clip?

If you do, you'll see his face.

Why would he be ascending the steps at that point in time if he didn't work in the TSBD?

You've seen the black-and-white photos showing Bonnie Ray Williams, Danny Arce and Willaim Shelley being escorted to a car by a policeman I mean a cop, haven't you?

Go look at those photos, again, and notice this time the clothes he was wearing that day.

D'oh!

-- Tom

https://www.jfk.org/collections-archive/8mm-film-can-top-and-base-reel-2/

[Royell Storing]

Dear Comrade Storing,

Why don't you watch the clip?

If you do, you'll see his face.

Why would he be ascending the steps at that point in time if he didn't work in the TSBD?

You've seen the black-and-white photos showing Bonnie Ray Williams, Danny Arce and Willaim Shelley being escorted to a car by a policeman I mean a cop, haven't you?

Go look at those photos, again, and notice this time the clothes he was wearing that day.

D'oh!

-- Tom

   Your timeline is Wrong. Try researching the images. "Pictures Of The Pain" is regarded as the Bible in this area. That evidence source makes you look bad. Do the work.

[Tom Graves]

Your timeline is Wrong. Try researching the images. "Pictures Of The Pain" is regarded as the Bible in this area. That evidence source makes you look bad. Do the work.

Dear Comrade Storing,

Bonnie Ray Williams, under oath, told the Warren Commission that he came down to the first floor about fifteen minutes after the assassination, and that he didn't go outside because "they weren't letting people out of the building."

He says that he and some others were taken to "the courthouse, I think" (Mr. Ball said it was the Police Department) to "fill out some affidavits and other things."

In some black-and-white photos, we can see Bonnie Ray Williams, Danny Arce, and William Shelley being escorted by a policeman I mean by a cop to a car parked on Elm Street so that they can be taken to "the courthouse, I think" (i.e., the Police Department at 106 South Harwood Street, about twelve blocks from Dealey Plaza).

Note that Williams was wearing light-colored pants and a dark-colored long-sleeved shirt that day.

D'oh!

-- Tom

[Dan O'meara]

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

The guy walking up the steps wearing light-colored pants and the brown shirt is Bonnie Ray Williams. He testified to the Warren Commission that he came down from the fifth floor about 15 minutes after the assassination, and that he and some others were then taken by car to the courthouse to write up affidavits. Therefore, it would seem that the above scene (with Lovelady smoking a cigarette on the steps) was filmed by Robert Hughes significantly more than 30 minutes after the assassination.
 
-- Tom

Just to put this in some kind of context.
You've taken a picture I posted ONE MONTH AGO and have felt the need to make this point about it representing the moment Bonnie Ray Williams was taken to the courthouse.
This is from a post 106 REPLIES AGO.
This is the only detail you feel comfortable criticizing?
You've trawled through the thread and this is the only point you can make?
I suppose it's a testimony to how solid the arguments are that I've put forward in this thread.

Now...as for the point you are making...
You're wrong.
You've stuck your head above the parapet over this minute detail and you're wrong.
The image from the Hughes film is showing the moment Bonnie Ray, Junior Jarman and Hank Norman run outside after reaching the first floor and are pointed out by Brennan as being the guys he saw on the fifth floor. They are then called back inside the building.



This image is taken approximately 10 - 15 minutes after the shooting.
In the image showing Williams, Arce and Shelley being taken to the police car the area around the front steps has been completely cleared and is from later on that day.

[Tom Graves]

The image from the Hughes film is showing the moment Bonnie Ray, Junior Jarman and Hank Norman run outside after reaching the first floor and are pointed out by Brennan as being the guys he saw on the fifth floor. They are then called back inside the building.



This image is taken approximately 10 - 15 minutes after the shooting.
In the image showing Williams, Arce and Shelley being taken to the police car the area around the front steps has been completely cleared and is from later on that day.

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

Okay.

And this proves what?

That Shelley and Lovelady were inside the TSBD from the time that the former, having just spoken with Gloria Calvery on or near the "island," went inside to call his wife, and Lovelady tagged along with him and stayed inside until he just couldn't stand it anymore and had to sneak outside to get a nicotine "fix" on the steps?

-- Tom