Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.

[Dan O'meara]

Question: Why didn't Adams and Styles see Truly, Baker or Oswald on the stairs, and vice versa?

Answer: Oswald, Baker and Truly were in the second-floor lunchroom "vestibule" while Adams and Styles were transiting a corner of the second floor.

Perhaps.
I'm thinking Adams and Styles were out the loading dock door before Truly and Baker arrived at the elevators,
I doubt the noise of the two women clattering along the wooden floor would not have gone unnoticed by someone in the "vestibule" but it's not beyond the realms of possibility.

[Dan O'meara]

   Well, if you believe that Oswald fired the shots, then it's obvious that Truly vouching that Oswald worked there meant nothing. Which it always does if you're a cop responding to "Shots Fired". A Cop confronts/clears every stranger he encounters in a situation such as this.  You notice that Baker had his gun drawn from the time he mounted the stairwell and that was with Truly in front of him. Baker did not know Truly from Adam and having his gun drawn on him from behind demonstrates this.
   Those 2 guys near the elevator are an issue, but there is more. A Lot More   .........................  STAY TUNED   -----------------------

You're going round in circles, Royell.
Baker didn't "clear" Truly.
Or any of the people in the lobby.
Or Dorothy Garner and her colleagues on the fourth floor.
And your notion, that Baker pulled his gun on Truly as they were climbing the stairs, is insane.
You really must think things through before posting.

What's important is that around 50 - 70 seconds after the assassination both Baker and Adams report two white men in the vicinity of the elevators.
These two white men are Shelley and Lovelady.

[Tom Graves]

Perhaps.
I'm thinking Adams and Styles were out the loading dock door before Truly and Baker arrived at the elevators,
I doubt the noise of the two women clattering along the wooden floor would not have gone unnoticed by someone in the "vestibule" but it's not beyond the realms of possibility.

If 1) Baker arrived at the front door about 30 seconds after the final shot (per Couch-Darnell), and 2) Adams saw Shelley and Lovelady on the first floor, and 3) Adams and Styles exited through the loading dock door before Baker and Truly arrived at the elevators and saw Shelley and Lovelady nearby, 4) since Baker/Truly and Adams/Styles didn't see each other or Oswald on the stairs, how does Baker's and Adams' spotting Shelley and Lovelady on the first floor prove Oswald wasn't on the sixth floor during the shooting?

By the same token, if 1) Baker (with Truly) saw Shelley and Lovelady near the elevators about a minute after the final shot, and 2) Adams and Styles started down about a minute after the final shot and traversed a corner of the second floor while Baker, Truly, and Oswald were in the lunchroom's "vestibule," and 3) Adams saw Shelley and Lovelady on the first floor when they got there, how would it prove that Oswald wasn't on the sixth floor during the shooting?

[Dan O'meara]

If 1) Baker arrived at the front door about 30 seconds after the final shot (per Couch-Darnell), and 2) Adams saw Shelley and Lovelady on the first floor, and 3) Adams and Styles exited through the loading dock door before Baker and Truly arrived at the elevators and saw Shelley and Lovelady nearby, 4) since Baker/Truly and Adams/Styles didn't see each other or Oswald on the stairs, how does Baker's and Adams' spotting Shelley and Lovelady on the first floor prove Oswald wasn't on the sixth floor during the shooting?

By the same token, if 1) Baker (with Truly) saw Shelley and Lovelady near the elevators about a minute after the final shot, and 2) Adams and Styles started down about a minute after the final shot and traversed a corner of the second floor while Baker, Truly, and Oswald were in the lunchroom's "vestibule," and 3) Adams saw Shelley and Lovelady on the first floor when they got there, how would it prove that Oswald wasn't on the sixth floor during the shooting?

There's no proof Oswald was or wasn't on the 6th floor for the shooting.
If there was this discussion wouldn't be happening.

[Tom Graves]

There's no proof Oswald was or wasn't on the 6th floor for the shooting.
If there was this discussion wouldn't be happening.

I didn't say that there was (although there is more evidence that he was than he wasn't).

Did you start this thread in an attempt to prove that he couldn't have been on the sixth floor during the shooting?

If not, why, then, did you start it?

To implicate someone else for the assassination?

[Dan O'meara]

I didn't say that there was (although there is more evidence that he was than he wasn't).

Did you start this thread in an attempt to prove that he couldn't have been on the sixth floor during the shooting?

If not, why, then, did you start it?

To implicate someone else for the assassination?

Did you start this thread in an attempt to prove that he couldn't have been on the sixth floor during the shooting?

No, I did not start this thread in an attempt to prove Oswald couldn't have been on the 6th floor during the shooting.
Is that what you've been thinking all along??
What a f%cking waste of time it is dealing with you.

I started the thread to prove that Lovelady and Shelley lied about their movements in the immediate aftermath of the shooting.
They lied to cover up the fact that they made their way towards the back of the first floor where they were seen by Adams and Baker.
The fact these two 'innocent' men felt the need to lie repeatedly to various law enforcement agencies raises some serious issues with your narrative.

[Tom Graves]

Did you start this thread in an attempt to prove that he couldn't have been on the sixth floor during the shooting?

No, I did not start this thread in an attempt to prove Oswald couldn't have been on the 6th floor during the shooting.
Is that what you've been thinking all along??
What a f%cking waste of time it is dealing with you.

I started the thread to prove that Lovelady and Shelley lied about their movements in the immediate aftermath of the shooting.
They lied to cover up the fact that they made their way towards the back of the first floor where they were seen by Adams and Baker.
The fact these two 'innocent' men felt the need to lie repeatedly to various law enforcement agencies raises some serious issues with your narrative.

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

Did the evil evil CIA, the evil evil FBI, the evil evil DPD, or the evil evil [fill in the blank] force Shelley and Lovelady to lie to cover up its involvement in the JFK assassination?

Gasp . . . did Shelley and Lovelady participate in the JFK assassination???

Why don't you tell us what your conspiracy theory is?

Why is Shelly's and Lovelady's lying about [fill in the blank] so gosh darn important to you?

-- Tom