As I recall from my research (and this is from memory), there is no doubt Calvery encountered Shelley and Lovelady on or near the TSBD steps. Lovelady made clear he wasn't wearing a watch and guessed her arrival was three minutes after the shots. Shelley guessed three minutes after the shots based solely on his estimate of the time that she must have taken to travel from her location along the motorcade route. The time she actually took is whatever the hell she took, which I assume was less than their estimates - but who cares? Both said they first went to the island. Shelley said he saw Truly and Baker at the TSBD entrance but did not see them enter. Lovelady said he looked back when someone shouted and saw them enter. They then fast-walked or trotted down the dead-end part of Elm to the first set of tracks and stayed a short time. One of them, I believe Shelley, said they watched autos being searched in the parking lot for a brief time. They then entered through the open double wooden doors on the west side at the Houston Street dock. Shelley, as I recall, saw a Black guy (perhaps Piper?). Lovelady said several people had reentered the first floor and he saw Shelley either talking to a woman or a woman standing near him, whom he thought could be Adams but he wasn't sure. This would suggest Shelley and Adams were talking about two slightly different time periods - but who cares? Both said some distinctly "unhelpful" things, including thinking the shots had come from the west (Lovelady actually saying the knoll). Wouldn't their three-minute estimates also be grossly at odds with the official story of the lunchroom encounter? Do you seriously believe the WC lawyers browbeat Shelley and Lovelady into telling absolute whoppers just to discredit Adams - and, if so, how do you explain Styles completely discrediting Adams for no apparent reason (other than the truth) long after the fact? I fail to see how any of this adds up to any big deal.