There is no way the guy labeled in red as “Shelley” is Shelley. Simply no way.
Correct.
I have considerable doubt that the woman identified as Gloria Calvery is in fact Calvery.
Given the fact that:
1) self-described American Indian Stella Mae Jacob and her two TSBD workmates, strawberry-blond Gloria Jeanne Holt and light-blue-headscarf-wearing Sharon Simmons ("all of whom(?)" mistakenly told the FBI that they were standing on the south side of Elm Street during the motorcade) were misidentified as "Gloria Calvery," "Karan Hicks," and "Carol Reed" "by" the Stemmons Freeway sign in the Zapruder film for several years
2) four headscarf-wearing gals can be seen standing shoulder-to-shoulder on the north side of Elm Street about 10 feet up Elm Street from the Jacob-Holt-Simmons group, and about 100 feet from the TSBD
3) as we can see in her wedding photograph, Calvery was a large-and-tall gal
4) one of the headscarf-wearing gals in the aforementioned group-of-four was not only suspiciously
not labeled by Robin Unger or Dan Roberdeau for several years -- if ever), but is noticeably larger and taller than the other three and is wearing a dark-blue blouse, a dark-blue headscarf, and a lighter-colored plaid skirt
5) standing to the immediate right (from Zapruder's point of view) of the large-and-tall gal is a young-looking guy, and next to him is a Fedora-and-suit-wearing man. We know that their names are John Templin and Ernest Brandt, respectively
6) one of the other gals in the group-of-four is tallish and slender and is wearing a white dress and a white headscarf
7) in all of the verified photos of Calvery that we have seen, she is wearing the same black-framed glasses
8 ) in Betzner-3 (and from Betzner's point of view), we can see a gal in the background who is standing to the right of a shorter guy (who must be John Templin) and we can see that this gal is either wearing a dark-colored headscarf or has dark-colored hair, and that she appears to be wearing glasses (John Iacoletti labeled her "Glasses Woman" until he realized Calvery always wore glasses) .
9) standing about three feet to the right of this dark-clad, glasses-wearing gal (from Betzner's point of view) is a gal who appears to be wearing a white dress and a white headscarf
10) in all of the known photos and films that were taken in Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63 (except for the Darnell clip; see below), this dressed-all-in-white gal on the north side of Elm Street is the only one who is dressed all-in-white
11) in the Darnell clip, a dark-blouse-wearing, dark-headscarf-wearing, plaid-skirt-wearing gal can be seen standing on (or going up) the lower section of the TSBD steps about 25 seconds after the Z-313 shot (according to the Mark Tyler synchronized animation, etc.)
12) to the immediate right of this gal, a dressed-all-in-white gal can be seen passing this gal, and maybe even trying to pull her up the steps,
I think it's reasonable to assume that the dark-blouse-wearing / dark-headscarf-wearing / plaid-skirt-wearing gal on the TSBD steps in the Darnell clip is Gloria Calvery, and that the dressed-all-in-white gal is her South-West Publishing Company colleague, Karan Hicks or Carol Reed (and if it's the former, then the latter was "Running Woman" and vice versa.
If she is, something is far off on the supposed timing.
Considering the various witness that were all over the place, that's not surprising.
Joe Molina testified at the WC that he was on the TSBD steps, saw Truly go in, and went in after Truly. No one came up the steps and said JFK had been shot before he went in. After he was in the lobby, Calvery and another woman came in and said this.
Okay.
Buell Frazier told the WC he stayed on the steps “a few minutes” after Shelley and Lovelady had left, until people started going back in to eat their lunches. The only thing he heard, “right before” he went back in, was “somebody come back and said somebody had shot President Kennedy.” The girl who said this – who was unknown to him – “didn’t tell me right directly but she just came back and more or less in a low kind of hollering she just told several people.”
Okay.
I’ll leave it there. I still have no idea what this thread is about. There is no way to make this all neat and tidy. Ordinary people were instantly thrust into unimaginable chaos and confusion. CTers always pretend to nail things down to a level of certainty that is impossible and then to assign nefarious motives and purposes to all the dark and sinister “discrepancies” that are actually understandable and to be expected in such circumstances.
Okay.
Thanks for weighing in.
