NEW ARTICLE: JFK's Clothing Proves the Single-Bullet Theory Is Impossible

[Michael T. Griffith]

This is a powerful convergence of evidence. JFK's tie and shirt slits prove that no bullet exited the slits, so it is no surprise that the throat wound was above the tie knot.

Unfortunately, the autopsy photos show that the wound was not above the knott, it was much lower.

So your answer to all the evidence I've presented is to cite the autopsy photos, which do not show the throat wound when JFK was wearing a shirt and tie and which show the wound after it was substantially enlarged???

If the throat wound was much lower, then how could a bullet exiting that wound and then exiting the shirt slits have avoided tearing through the tie knot, much less magically weaved around the body of the knot to nick the knot's outer surface inward from the left edge, given that we know that JFK's tie knot was centered in the middle of his collar band and that there was no hole through the tie?

Your ongoing refusal to address this crucial issue is revealing.

For further photographic evidence that the tie knot was centered in the middle of the collar band, see "Why JFK's Tie and Shirt Slits Destroy the Single-Bullet Theory," https://sites.google.com/view/jfkshirtandtiedestroysbt/home.

If they had known there were only two shots what would these people have stated? You seem to not want to prove there even was three shots.

Thanks for providing this reminder that you are even on the fringe of the lone-gunman theory. Even most of your fellow lone-gunman theorists reject the ridiculous idea that there were only two shots. All of your leading WC defenders--Posner, Bugliosi, Holland, Down, Von Pein, Litwin, etc.--all of them say there were three shots.

[Jack Nessan]

So your answer to all the evidence I've presented is to cite the autopsy photos, which do not show the throat wound when JFK was wearing a shirt and tie and which show the wound after it was substantially enlarged???

If the throat wound was much lower, then how could a bullet exiting that wound and then exiting the shirt slits have avoided tearing through the tie knot, much less magically weaved around the body of the knot to nick the knot's outer surface inward from the left edge, given that we know that JFK's tie knot was centered in the middle of his collar band and that there was no hole through the tie?

Your ongoing refusal to address this crucial issue is revealing.

For further photographic evidence that the tie knot was centered in the middle of the collar band, see "Why JFK's Tie and Shirt Slits Destroy the Single-Bullet Theory," https://sites.google.com/view/jfkshirtandtiedestroysbt/home.

Thanks for providing this reminder that you are even on the fringe of the lone-gunman theory. Even most of your fellow lone-gunman theorists reject the ridiculous idea that there were only two shots. All of your leading WC defenders--Posner, Bugliosi, Holland, Down, Von Pein, Litwin, etc.--all of them say there were three shots.

So your answer to all the evidence I've presented is to cite the autopsy photos,

Yes. Your opinion is not considered evidence of anything. One picture is worth a thousand words, and you have not shown one thing to doubt what is seen in the photo.

Thanks for providing this reminder that you are even on the fringe of the lone-gunman theory. Even most of your fellow lone-gunman theorists reject the ridiculous idea that there were only two shots.

You're welcome. Save your opinion though, your leader Josiah Thompson wrote in the book Six Seconds in Dallas that LHO only fire two shots. The most telling thing from this post is your refusal to provide proof of a piece of information that is central to all of your writings and postings.

[Michael T. Griffith]

So your answer to all the evidence I've presented is to cite the autopsy photos,

Yes. Your opinion is not considered evidence of anything.

It's not my "opinion." Levine's and Manchester's statements that the autopsy doctors knew about the throat wound before the autopsy are not my "opinion"--I've merely quoted what they said. The photos that show JFK's tie knot squarely centered in the middle of his collar band during the motorcade are not my "opinion." Dr. Carrico's, Dr. Jones', and Dr. Goldstrich's statements that the throat wound was above the tie knot are not my "opinion." The evidence photos of JFK's tie and shirt slits are not my "opinion." The fact that no fabric was missing from the shirt slits and that the FBI found no metallic traces around the slits is not my "opinion." And on and on I could go.

One picture is worth a thousand words, and you have not shown one thing to doubt what is seen in the photo.

Then you've had your eyes covered. What about the motorcade photos that prove JFK's tie knot was centered in the middle of the collar band? What about the evidence photos of the tie and shirt slits? What about the fact that the damage behind and below the throat wound was larger than the throat wound itself, an ironclad indicator of an entry wound? What about the rear holes in the JFK's shirt and coat, which prove the back wound was well below the throat wound (and which are corroborated by the death certificate, the autopsy face sheet, and the Sibert and O'Neill HSCA wound diagrams)?

I notice you ignored the point that the autopsy photos do not show the throat wound in its original condition and do not show the wound when JFK was wearing a shirt and tie, not to mention the numerous objections to the autopsy photos' reliability and authenticity (e.g., the drastic conflict between the skull x-rays and the brain photos, which you keep ducking, and the drastic conflict between the skull x-rays and the autopsy report).

I ask again: If the throat wound was much lower, then how could a bullet exiting that wound and then exiting the shirt slits have avoided tearing through the tie knot, much less magically weaved around the body of the knot to nick the knot's outer surface inward from the left edge, given that we know that JFK's tie knot was centered in the middle of his collar band and that there was no hole through the tie?

Thanks for providing this reminder that you are even on the fringe of the lone-gunman theory. Even most of your fellow lone-gunman theorists reject the ridiculous idea that there were only two shots.

You're welcome. Save your opinion though, your leader Josiah Thompson wrote in the book Six Seconds in Dallas that LHO only fire two shots. The most telling thing from this post is your refusal to provide proof of a piece of information that is central to all of your writings and postings.

Once more, you don't know what you're talking about. One, Thompson did not say in Six Seconds in Dallas that "Oswald" fired two shots. He argued that Oswald was not even on the sixth floor during the shooting. Two, Thompson said in Six Seconds in Dallas that at least four shots were fired and that there was more than one gunman--and that is still his position.

[Jack Nessan]

It's not my "opinion." Levine's and Manchester's statements that the autopsy doctors knew about the throat wound before the autopsy are not my "opinion"--I've merely quoted what they said. The photos that show JFK's tie knot squarely centered in the middle of his collar band during the motorcade are not my "opinion." Dr. Carrico's, Dr. Jones', and Dr. Goldstrich's statements that the throat wound was above the tie knot are not my "opinion." The evidence photos of JFK's tie and shirt slits are not my "opinion." The fact that no fabric was missing from the shirt slits and that the FBI found no metallic traces around the slits is not my "opinion." And on and on I could go.

Then you've had your eyes covered. What about the motorcade photos that prove JFK's tie knot was centered in the middle of the collar band? What about the evidence photos of the tie and shirt slits? What about the fact that the damage behind and below the throat wound was larger than the throat wound itself, an ironclad indicator of an entry wound? What about the rear holes in the JFK's shirt and coat, which prove the back wound was well below the throat wound (and which are corroborated by the death certificate, the autopsy face sheet, and the Sibert and O'Neill HSCA wound diagrams)?

I notice you ignored the point that the autopsy photos do not show the throat wound in its original condition and do not show the wound when JFK was wearing a shirt and tie, not to mention the numerous objections to the autopsy photos' reliability and authenticity (e.g., the drastic conflict between the skull x-rays and the brain photos, which you keep ducking, and the drastic conflict between the skull x-rays and the autopsy report).

I ask again: If the throat wound was much lower, then how could a bullet exiting that wound and then exiting the shirt slits have avoided tearing through the tie knot, much less magically weaved around the body of the knot to nick the knot's outer surface inward from the left edge, given that we know that JFK's tie knot was centered in the middle of his collar band and that there was no hole through the tie?

Once more, you don't know what you're talking about. One, Thompson did not say in Six Seconds in Dallas that "Oswald" fired two shots. He argued that Oswald was not even on the sixth floor during the shooting. Two, Thompson said in Six Seconds in Dallas that at least four shots were fired and that there was more than one gunman--and that is still his position.

It's not my "opinion." Levine's and Manchester's statements that the autopsy doctors knew about the throat wound before the autopsy are not my "opinion"--I've merely quoted what they said. The photos that show JFK's tie knot squarely centered in the middle of his collar band during the motorcade are not my "opinion." Dr. Carrico's, Dr. Jones', and Dr. Goldstrich's statements that the throat wound was above the tie knot are not my "opinion." The evidence photos of JFK's tie and shirt slits are not my "opinion." The fact that no fabric was missing from the shirt slits and that the FBI found no metallic traces around the slits is not my "opinion." And on and on I could go.

Yes, it is just your opinion. The photo shows you what need to know. J Mytton placed the tie on the photo with his magic. You should remember that I think he did in response to this silly crap currently being posted by you.

 

I notice you ignored the point that the autopsy photos do not show the throat wound in its original condition and do not show the wound when JFK was wearing a shirt and tie, not to mention the numerous objections to the autopsy photos' reliability and authenticity (e.g., the drastic conflict between the skull x-rays and the brain photos, which you keep ducking, and the drastic conflict between the skull x-rays and the autopsy report).

More of the same nonsense. Is there an end to it. The wound is clearly visible in the photo. Can you not see it in your copy of the photo. 
 

 

Once more, you don't know what you're talking about. One, Thompson did not say in Six Seconds in Dallas that "Oswald" fired two shots. He argued that Oswald was not even on the sixth floor during the shooting. Two, Thompson said in Six Seconds in Dallas that at least four shots were fired and that there was more than one gunman--and that is still his position.

No that is completely wrong, nice try though.
 
Six Seconds in Dallas Page page 146

“Thus the cartridge case that had an extra dent in the lip seemed to lack a mark exhibited by every other shell we know to have been in the breech of Oswalds rifle.

   The combination of these factors---- the peculiar accorded treatment accorded CE 543 by the Dallas Police, its inexplicable dent on the dented lip, the sets of three marks on the base absent on the other cases while present on CE 543 and finally its lack of the characteristic chambering mark----suggests that although two of the cartridges case may have been ejected from Oswald’s rifle, the third, CE543, is most likely an extra, unfired shell, and possibly a deliberate fake. Such a conclusion would mate perfectly with the description of events earlier laid down, namely, that only two of the shots fired that day in Dealey Plaza came from Oswald's rifle.”


Josiah had absolutely no problem identifying the carcano rifle as having belonged to LHO. He referred to the rifle as belonging to LHO three times in this short excerpt.

Any headway on proving the third shot or just more dodging the issue?

[John Mytton]

Not only is Kennedy's tie off centre in the limo in Dallas, the tie is off centre to Kennedy's right, which perfectly lines up with the nick on the left side. Ouch!





Edit. Left and right corrections. Thanks Tim.

JohnM

[Tim Nickerson]

Not only is Kennedy's tie off centre in the limo in Dallas, the tie is off centre to Kennedy's left, which perfectly lines up with the nick on the right side. Ouch!

I was going to post that image the other day but forgot to. You can clearly see how the bullet was able to pass through where it did and nick the left side of the tie knot. His left.

JohnM

[Michael T. Griffith]

As we see below, now Mytton, naturally robotically endorsed by Nickerson, is resorting to sheer sophistry or self-delusion, or both, in claiming that the photo in his reply shows "the tie" off-center, ignoring the fact that the photo clearly shows the tie knot was squarely centered in the middle of the collar band. (BTW, that photo is one of the photos in my article!)

Yes, in the photo, the loose-hanging part of the tie below the tie knot is off-center because JFK has turned to his right, but the tie knot is not off-center but is smackdab in the middle of the collar band. We see the same thing in every other motorcade photo that shows the position of JFK's tie knot, as I prove in my article:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MAgWA0frOLVeWY6ok9nzdrgpRN4Wv1AL/view

See also https://sites.google.com/view/jfkshirtandtiedestroysbt/home

Frankly, I am surprised that anyone takes Mytton seriously, given the horrendous gaffes he has been caught committing.

Also, I found another Parkland witness who said the throat wound was visible before the clothing was removed, which means it must have been above the collar: Nurse Margaret Henchliffe. She followed JFK's body into the ER. She said she could see the throat wound when she "first saw him" as they wheeled his body into the room, before the clothing was removed (6 H 141). That makes four Parkland medical staff who said the throat wound was visible before the clothing was removed, and two of them (Carrico and Jones) specified that the wound was above the tie knot.

Not only is Kennedy's tie off centre in the limo in Dallas, the tie is off centre to Kennedy's right, which perfectly lines up with the nick on the left side. Ouch!



JohnM

[Gerry Down]

Not only is Kennedy's tie off centre in the limo in Dallas, the tie is off centre to Kennedy's right, which perfectly lines up with the nick on the left side. Ouch!





Edit. Left and right corrections. Thanks Tim.

JohnM

Good photo. It looks as though JFK having his right elbow on the side of the limo raised up the right side of his body which jilted the tie to the right.

And it would appear JFKs elbow was still on the side of the limo at z224.