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Why I Believe in the JFKA Conspiracy
Lance Payette:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on September 14, 2025, 02:52:33 PM ---Dear Lance,
What seemingly unsurmountable technical issues with the Lonenutter's "Shooting Myth" does Orr's theory make moot for you?
The fact that CE-399 is "virtually pristine"?
The fact that JBC reacted so much later than JFK to being shot?
The fact that the angles of entrance and exit in JFK and JBC seem so doggone unworkable?
The fact that CE-399 didn't fragment but the Z-313 bullet did?
What?
-- Tom
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That really isn't my approach. My point was simply that if I were forced to adopt a conspiracy theory, Orr's would be what makes the most sense to me (and had occurred to me independently): 1. The Mafia. 2. A pro, so there is no doubt the job gets done with one shot. 3. Said pro at the rear on a trajectory plausibly attributable to Oswald. 4. A pro-Castro patsy because, if all goes well, we not only eliminate JFK and neutralize RFK but may restore our Cuban empire. Add in the shell casing found much later on the Dal-Tex Building roof under circumstances which scarcely suggest a plant, together with Marcello's supposed confession and whatever else there may be, and I'm certainly not prepared to say, "That's ridiculous."
With my LN beanie on now that I've had my second cup of coffee, I still do kind of like Orr's theory of a fragment from the head wound causing JBC's wrist wounds. If that can't be ruled out completely, it actually improves the SBT to me. As I recall, there once was speculation that a head shot fragment had caused the throat wound, with CE 399 being what had dropped out of a shallow back wound (but CE 399 is too damaged for that).
My other big stumbling block to a conspiracy theory is the timing. Unless one is off in the Grand Conspiracy Ozone where Oswald was "planted" at the TSBD and JFK's route was thereafter "arranged" to pass in front of the TSBD - which I reject completely - then the conspiracy would have to have been organized lightning-fast, after it was known the motorcade would turn at Houston and go down Elm. I see absolutely nothing in Oswald's activities, or any scenario that makes any sense, to suggest a conspiracy being organized in that extremely tight time frame. I really can't picture any conspiracy that has Oswald hitching a ride in Buell's clunker to retrieve his clunky Carcano the afternoon before the assassination, and then trusting Buell's clunker to get him back to the TSBD with no hitches or glitches; there are so many absurd risks associated with the whole enterprise that it would have to have been a Three Stooges conspiracy.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Lance Payette on September 14, 2025, 04:08:13 PM ---If I were forced to adopt a conspiracy theory, Orr's would be what makes the most sense to me (and had occurred to me independently).
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Dear Lance,
What in the world would compel or "force" you to "adopt" a JFKA CT?
Some sort of deep psychological need, like Royell Storing, Michael T. Griffith, and [fill in the blank] seem to have?
(LOL)
-- Tom
Lance Payette:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on September 14, 2025, 05:30:45 PM ---Dear Lance,
What in the world would compel or "force" you to "adopt" a JFKA CT?
Some sort of deep psychological need, like Royell Storing, Michael T. Griffith, and [fill in the blank] seem to have?
(LOL)
-- Tom
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If someone said to me, "Let's just assume for the sake of argument that there was a conspiracy. What would be your best guess as to what it would have looked like?" - then the Mafia scenario would be my best guess. Let it go - unless perhaps you have some deep psychological need to keep asking questions and having the last word on every thread.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Lance Payette on September 14, 2025, 05:47:26 PM ---If someone said to me, "Let's just assume for the sake of argument that there was a conspiracy. What would be your best guess as to what it would have looked like?" - then the Mafia scenario would be my best guess. Let it go - unless perhaps you have some deep psychological need to keep asking questions and having the last word on every thread.
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Dear Lance,
Do you find assuming things for the sake of argument is a real hoot?
-- Tom
Jarrett Smith:
--- Quote from: Lance Payette on September 14, 2025, 05:47:26 PM ---If someone said to me, "Let's just assume for the sake of argument that there was a conspiracy. What would be your best guess as to what it would have looked like?" - then the Mafia scenario would be my best guess. Let it go - unless perhaps you have some deep psychological need to keep asking questions and having the last word on every thread.
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Ruby stalking/killing Oswald is all the proof I need that Marcello had him killed. My theory is Oswald fired three shots Z157, Z224, Z313, and the fourth shot hit JFK from the front throwing him back. Oswald killed Tippit, and Ruby killed Oswald. Secret service covered their ass for not reacting as they should have, Burkley was in charge of the autopsy thru RFK, JFK's back of head picture was taken during the reconstruction of his head to protect the family.
Thats all
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