Shelley intercepted Calvery at the "island" about 10 seconds after final shot

[Tom Graves]

  Thanks for posting that reader's digest version of that HSCA Lovelady interview. You're Not familiar with the layout of that stretch of buildings that runs from the TSBD down to the dock that Lovelady & Shelley entered. If you are standing on the Elm St Ext and facing the TSBD, you would see that TSBD connects to the Huge Gates, which connects to a grocery warehouse, which connects to that dock that Lovelady & Shelley entered. You can enter the dock and then walk straight through into the TSBD. You would enter the TSBD through a Side Door(s). It could have even been a side garage door kinda setup, but the entrance/door was technically on the side of the TSBD.  It was close to the freight elevator/stairwell. Officer Luke Mooney entered the TSBD through this same door. Officer Luke Mooney also found the shells/hulls. Based on these claimed "SS Agents" finding the hulls would mean 45 minutes before that happened. Not true. Not even close. My opinion, but this time extension and the Lovelady stuff about being stuck outside the TSBD for an extended time period is being tailored to discredit Adams & Styles coming down the stairwell shortly after the Kill Shot and seeing Lovelady and Shelley there on the 1st Floor. Bottom line, I prefer Sworn Testimony to interviews or reader's digest compilation of an interview. Again, your reading the Lovelady WC Testimony would help you understand what is going on here and behind the curtain.

Do you deny that Gloria Calvery can be seen standing on, or going up, the TSBD steps in Couch-Darnell within 30 seconds of the final shot?

[Tom Graves]

If you are standing on the Elm Street Extension and facing the TSBD, you would see that TSBD connects to the Huge Gates, which connects to a grocery warehouse, which connects to that dock that Lovelady & Shelley entered. You can enter the dock and then walk straight through into the TSBD. You would enter the TSBD through a Side Door(s). It could have even been a side garage door kinda setup, but the entrance/door was technically on the side of the TSBD.  It was close to the freight elevator/stairwell.

That's wonderful, Comrade Storing.

FWIW, in Part 1, Lovelady says at 29:08 that Calvery "came up to them" and told them that the President had been hit. He says at 30:24 that after "the girl" (Calvary) told them that the President had been hit, he and Shelley started running to the railroad tracks, and that when they got there, they saw people running around back there and he and Shelley started wondering what they (he and Shelley) were doing there and implies that they decided to go back to the TSBD. At 30:53 he says that they "came in through the back entrance of the building."

Are you saying that Lovelady lied, and that they actually entered the building though your HUGE GATES on the side of the building?

[Royell Storing]

That's wonderful, Comrade Storing.

FWIW, in Part 1, Lovelady says at 29:08 that Calvery "came up to them" and told them that the President had been hit. He says at 30:24 that after "the girl" (Calvary) told them that the President had been hit, he and Shelley started running to the railroad tracks, and that when they got there, they saw people running around back there and he and Shelley started wondering what they (he and Shelley) were doing there and implies that they decided to go back to the TSBD. At 30:53 he says that they "came in through the back entrance of the building."

   I don't want to be nasty, but you need to read Lovelady's WC Testimony. It explains a lot of what you continue to rehash. He and Shelley did not hesitate to entire that dock after leaving the 1st set of railroad tracks. Also, you are unfamiliar with the layout of those buildings. This is why the "wide open" Huge Gates granting access to the TSBD was a revelation. That entire stretch of buildings was entirely torn down with a parking lot now filling that space. Probably intentionally done to confuse/fool people such as yourself.

[Tom Graves]

The "wide open" Huge Gates granting access to the TSBD was a revelation.

Are you saying that Lovelady lied, and that he and Shelley actually entered the building though your HUGE GATES on the side of the building a couple of minutes after the final shot?

How is it that Lovelady was filmed by Martin and Hughes as he was standing on the steps and smoking after the police had secured the building and weren't letting employees back in?

[Royell Storing]

Are you saying that Lovelady lied, and that he and Shelley actually entered the building though your HUGE GATES on the side of the building a couple of minutes after the final shot?

How is it that Lovelady was filmed by Martin and Hughes as he was standing on the steps and smoking after the police had secured the building and weren't letting employees back in?

  Not saying that at all. People, (you included), are not familiar with that stretch of buildings. This is why you are unable to comprehend the WC Testimony of Lovelady, and why you arrive at an erroneous conclusion as to WHEN Lovelady and Shelly entered the TSBD 1st Floor. Even WHERE they entered that stretch of buildings. Remember, YOU are claiming it took Lovelady 30 minutes to enter the TSBD 1st Floor. That displays: (1) You do not know Lovelady's WC Testimony, and (2) the layout of those buildings stretching down from the TSBD. I did the deep dive research. Took the time. I highly recommend that you do likewise. Then, we can discuss this on an equal footing. And this is a very important issue as it also impacts the Styles & Adams issue of when they were coming Down the stairwell.

[Tom Graves]

  Not saying that at all. People, (you included), are not familiar with that stretch of buildings. This is why you are unable to comprehend the WC Testimony of Lovelady, and why you arrive at an erroneous conclusion as to WHEN Lovelady and Shelly entered the TSBD 1st Floor. Even WHERE they entered that stretch of buildings. Remember, YOU are claiming it took Lovelady 30 minutes to enter the TSBD 1st Floor. That displays: (1) You do not know Lovelady's WC Testimony, and (2) the layout of those buildings stretching down from the TSBD. I did the deep dive research. Took the time. I highly recommend that you do likewise. Then, we can discuss this on an equal footing. And this is a very important issue as it also impacts the Styles & Adams issue of when they were coming Down the stairwell.

Dear Comrade Storing,

What I'm saying is that Shelley intercepted Calvery at the "island" about ten seconds after the final shot, Shelley and Lovelady can be seen walking/running down Elm Street Extension towards the railway yard / parking lot about fifteen seconds later in Couch-Darnell, Calvery's colleague, Karan Hicks or Carol Reed, can be seen running past them towards the TSBD steps in Couch-Darnell, Officer Baker can be seen running towards the front steps in Couch-Darnell, Roy Truly can be seen standing in front of the steps and watching Baker run past him in Couch-Darnell, Gloria Calvery can be seen standing on, or going up, the steps next to her colleague -- Karan Hicks or Carol Reed -- in Couch-Darnell, and that all of these things, except for the first one (the earliest one), were "captured" in Couch-Darnell.

Do any of these Darnell-Couch-supported facts conflict with your grandiose CT?

If so, which ones, and why?

Do you even have one?

-- Tom

[Royell Storing]

  (1) You continue to claim that we are seeing Lovelady and Shelley moving down the Elm St. Ext. As if this were a Fact. There is absolutely Zero Proof that those "figures" are Lovelady and Shelley.

  (2) The BACK of that individual in front of the TSBD remains an unknown person. You continue slapping Calvery's name onto that BACK, but again, there is Zero Proof of this being a Fact.

    You're trying to pass off Speculated ID's as being fact. I proffer the Lovelady WC Sworn Testimony (4/7/64), with respect to his going straight from the railroad tracks into the dock/TSBD and staying inside there for roughly 30 minutes.