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Morley goes after Ruth Paine

Here is my response to an article on Jefferson Morley's Substack on Ruth Paine.

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https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/morley-s-substack-goes-after-ruth-paine

Morley goes after Ruth Paine

Here is my response to an article on Jefferson Morley's Substack on Ruth Paine.

How dare he go after Russophile Ruthie like that!!!

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Wow, "they" even got to Ruth's family ... nah, this was probably written (a few months ago) on a keyboard at Langley ...

I'm a member of Ruth's family, and I guarantee you that she is a devout Quaker, and an unusually honest, generous, and indeed naive woman. I've been close to her for decades, though I was a small child at the time of the assassination. Her marriage to Michael was falling apart during the early 60s, and in fact they divorced not long after. She raised her two children as a single mother, and worked as the principal of a Quaker school in Pennsylvania and later as a school psychologist in Florida. She has been active in Quaker causes all her adult life. As she says, she is an extremely independent person. There's no possibility that she would have helped the CIA in any way at any time in her life, because it would not have lined up with her politics or her ethics. In fact, throughout her life she's been one of the most strictly ethical people I've ever known, even going so far as withholding taxes (in escrow) so as not to contribute to military spending. If she has a significant fault, it is her earnest naivety and over-generosity, which led her into this calamitous situation.

Does the CT community actually not realize what utter fools they make themselves when they decide to make Ruth Paine - RUTH PAINE??? - into a dark and evil figure? This is the JFKA counterpart to UFO lunacy of the level "Queen Elizabeth was actually a shape-shifting reptilian alien."

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Lance: Where was that published?

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Wow, "they" even got to Ruth's family ... nah, this was probably written (a few months ago) on a keyboard at Langley ...

I'm a member of Ruth's family, and I guarantee you that she is a devout Quaker, and an unusually honest, generous, and indeed naive woman. I've been close to her for decades, though I was a small child at the time of the assassination. Her marriage to Michael was falling apart during the early 60s, and in fact they divorced not long after. She raised her two children as a single mother, and worked as the principal of a Quaker school in Pennsylvania and later as a school psychologist in Florida. She has been active in Quaker causes all her adult life. As she says, she is an extremely independent person. There's no possibility that she would have helped the CIA in any way at any time in her life, because it would not have lined up with her politics or her ethics. In fact, throughout her life she's been one of the most strictly ethical people I've ever known, even going so far as withholding taxes (in escrow) so as not to contribute to military spending. If she has a significant fault, it is her earnest naivety and over-generosity, which led her into this calamitous situation.

Does the CT community actually not realize what utter fools they make themselves when they decide to make Ruth Paine - RUTH PAINE??? - into a dark and evil figure? This is the JFKA counterpart to UFO lunacy of the level "Queen Elizabeth was actually a shape-shifting reptilian alien."

Dear Lance,

Although it's a big HOOT, you really should stay away from that UFO stuff.

-- Tom

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Lance: Where was that published?

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It was kind of humorous. I was searching for philosophical material on "epistemic vices." Google led me to, of all things, a glowing review of "The Assassination and Mrs. Paine" - !!!. What I posted here was the very first Comment on the article. I looked at the individual's other posts to satisfy myself that this seemed to be genuine. Maybe you can track him or her down. There are also quite a few comments by a guy named Kearney who clearly understands the CT perspective and says he is writing an article on "epistemic vices." Possibly the spirit of Ruth Paine led me to the comment!

Kearney himself wrote a scathing review of "The Assassination and Mrs. Paine" - https://thetvolution.com/2022/12/reviewing-the-warren-commissions-findings-conspiracy-theorists-who-reject-them-and-while-im-at-it-an-asinine-little-movie-the-assassination-mrs-pain/

He hits on exactly what I was thinking: Ruth Paine was so utterly decent, so utterly non-CT material, that the CT mindset simply can't handle someone like her:

The Cult of Conspiracy cannot tolerate Ruth Paine because in the face of their doubts and lies she stands confidently in the truth, because in a world they see manipulated by sinister forces, she not only sees goodness but she acts with goodness.

They hate Ruth Paine because they fear she is stronger than them.  And they’re right.

I find this a despicable movie, and I find a number of those in it despicable.

But the worst offender is Max Good the director who like all CT Cultists advocates: Innocent until I decide guilty.

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Dear Lance,

Although it's a big HOOT, you really should stay away from that UFO stuff.

-- Tom
Au contraire, Mr. KGB Mania Guy. Sixty years of involvement in ufology and other areas of weirdness have given me insights into the JFKA that you and others without such involvement will never have. Mr. Reptilian Alien Guy is David Icke, and his ex-wife happened to be a good friend of one of my best friends who happens to be one of the true luminaries of ufology.

Mr. Icke is sort of the, well, Jim Di Eugenio on steroids of the UFO community:

Icke contends that the universe consists of "vibrational" energy and infinite dimensions sharing the same space. He argues that there is an inter-dimensional race of reptilian beings, the Archons or Anunnaki, which have hijacked the Earth. Further, a genetically modified human–Archon hybrid race of reptilian shape-shifters – the Babylonian Brotherhood, Illuminati or "elite" – manipulate events to keep humans in fear, so that the Archons can feed off the resulting "negative energy". He claims that many public figures belong to the Babylonian Brotherhood and propel humanity towards a global fascist state or New World Order, a post-truth era ending freedom of speech. He sees the only way to defeat such "Archontic" influence is for people to wake up to the truth and fill their hearts with love.

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Wow, "they" even got to Ruth's family ... nah, this was probably written (a few months ago) on a keyboard at Langley ...

I'm a member of Ruth's family, and I guarantee you that she is a devout Quaker, and an unusually honest, generous, and indeed naive woman. I've been close to her for decades, though I was a small child at the time of the assassination. Her marriage to Michael was falling apart during the early 60s, and in fact they divorced not long after. She raised her two children as a single mother, and worked as the principal of a Quaker school in Pennsylvania and later as a school psychologist in Florida. She has been active in Quaker causes all her adult life. As she says, she is an extremely independent person. There's no possibility that she would have helped the CIA in any way at any time in her life, because it would not have lined up with her politics or her ethics. In fact, throughout her life she's been one of the most strictly ethical people I've ever known, even going so far as withholding taxes (in escrow) so as not to contribute to military spending. If she has a significant fault, it is her earnest naivety and over-generosity, which led her into this calamitous situation.

Does the CT community actually not realize what utter fools they make themselves when they decide to make Ruth Paine - RUTH PAINE??? - into a dark and evil figure? This is the JFKA counterpart to UFO lunacy of the level "Queen Elizabeth was actually a shape-shifting reptilian alien."
There are a few CTers who are appalled at the allegations. But they are drowned out by the mob, the radicals.

This has been the problem starting with the Garrison claims: the radicals, the Garrisonites, simply shout down the more reasonable types, those that saw through Garrison's abuses. They intimidate them, silence them, accuse them of being CIA agents, et cetera. It's a microcosm of the political/online debate we have between the MAGA Right and the Woke Left. It's all screaming and yelling with very little discussion about actual policies or issues.
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