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My Amazon review of John M. Newman's "Uncovering Popov's Mole"

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Benjamin Cole:
Yes, AFAICT, Marchetti never published his suspicions regarding that LHO was being run by a KGB asset or mole inside the CIA.

Marchetti related those suspicions to author Popkin five decades before Newman published his work.

JFKA researchers have been diligently scouring CIA files for decades. And yet...some say LHO was not a CIA asset (such as Larry Hancock) and others say LHO might have been a de facto KGB asset (Newman). 

My take away: We still don't know what was LHO's relationship to the CIA, who, if anyone was directing him, and what role he played in the JFKA.

Tom Graves:

--- Quote from: Benjamin Cole on September 09, 2025, 01:49:02 AM ---Yes, AFAICT, Marchetti never published his suspicions regarding that LHO was being run by a KGB asset or mole inside the CIA.

Marchetti related those suspicions to author Popkin five decades before Newman published his work.

JFKA researchers have been diligently scouring CIA files for decades. And yet...some say LHO was not a CIA asset (such as Larry Hancock) and others say LHO might have been a de facto KGB asset (Newman). 

My take away: We still don't know what was LHO's relationship to the CIA, who, if anyone was directing him, and what role he played in the JFKA.

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We do know, however, that someone in a position of authority in the Office of Security's mole-hunting Security Research Division arranged in advance, with the Records Integration Division and the Office of Mail Logistics, for all of the expected incoming non-CIA cables (e.g., from State's Richard Snyder at the U.S. Embassy, the Naval Attaché at the U.S. Embassy, and the Navy Department in Washington) on Oswald's upcoming defection to not be sent to where they would normally go -- the Soviet Russia Division -- but to the aforementioned Office of Security's mole-hunting Security Research Division -- where its Chief, Paul Gaynor was busy with projects BLUEBIRD and ARTICHOKE and where his Deputy Chief was probable KGB "mole" Bruce Leonard Solie (who later "cleared" false or rogue defector KGB Major I mean Lt. Col. I mean Captain Yuri Nosenko in October 1968, who helped another probable "mole," Leonard V. McCoy, "lose" former Soviet destroyer captain Nicholas Shadrin to KGB kidnappers in Vienna in 1975, and who withheld OS documents on LHO from the Church Committee in 1975-76, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.).

Michael T. Griffith:

--- Quote from: Tom Graves on September 07, 2025, 04:07:27 PM ---
In his book, Newman points out that when his colleague, British JFK assassination researcher and National Archives habitué, Malcolm Blunt, showed Bagley some CIA documents in 2012 or so that Bagley hadn't been privy to in 1959-60, Bagley realized that Oswald had to have been a "witting defector," i.e., that Oswald was knowingly sent to Moscow by the CIA. What Newman . . . has shown us is that he probably wasn't sent there by the CIA proper, but by a KGB-controlled part of it.
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Just so I'm clear on what you're saying, let me ask you this: Are you saying that Oswald was a CIA dangle and that Oswald knew he was being sent to Russia by the CIA as a dangle?

If so, you are (1) rejecting a key tenet of the lone-gunman theory, i.e., that Oswald was not an intelligence operative and that he was a genuine defector, and (2) at least implying that Oswald's professed Marxism was part of his cover.

Tom Graves:

--- Quote from: Michael T. Griffith on September 09, 2025, 03:41:30 PM ---Just so I'm clear on what you're saying, let me ask you this: Are you saying that Oswald was a CIA dangle and that Oswald knew he was being sent to Russia by the CIA as a dangle?

If so, you are (1) rejecting a key tenet of the lone-gunman theory, i.e., that Oswald was not an intelligence operative and that he was a genuine defector, and (2) at least implying that Oswald's professed Marxism was part of his cover.

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Dear Comrade Griffith,

There's nothing to preclude Oswald's believing he was being sent by the regular CIA on an exciting "I Led Three Lives" kinda mission (which he may have thought he could "penetrate"!!!), being jerked around by both the KGB-controlled CIA and the regular KGB, getting fed up with being used as a pawn in an impenetrable chess game by those two organizations (and perhaps by the KGB-penetrated FBI as well!!!), and either trying to kill General Walker (and actually kill JFK) at the encouragement of at least one of those organizations, or . . . gasp . . . striking out and doing it on his own widdle self-described Marxist former Marine sharpshooter and U-2 radar operator volition.

-- Tom

Michael T. Griffith:

--- Quote from: Tom Graves on September 09, 2025, 03:54:22 PM ---Dear Comrade Griffith,

There's nothing to preclude Oswald's believing he was being sent by the regular CIA on an exciting "I Led Three Lives" kinda mission, being jerked around by both the KGB-controlled CIA and the regular KGB, getting fed up with being used as a pawn in an unintelligible chess game by those two organizations and, perhaps, the KGB-penetrated FBI, as well, and either trying to kill General Walker (and actually killing JFK) at the encouragement of at least one of those organizations, or . . . gasp . . . striking out and doing it all by him widdle self-described Marxist, former Marine sharpshooter and U-2 radar operator self. -- Tom
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Yeah, I figured you would come up with some nonsensical, convoluted scenario to neuter and trivialize your admission. Yet, even in your specious scenario, Oswald was an intelligence operative.

BTW, Oswald was not a "sharpshooter" by any standard definition of the term. "Sharpshooter" was the name that the Marine Corps and the other Service branches used for the second category of rifle qualification. Many new recruits who had never fired a rifle before in their lives managed to qualify in that category. I saw this with my own eyes when I went through Army basic training.

On his very best day at the range, Oswald barely managed to qualify in the Sharpshooter category. He was firing with a semi-automatic rifle, so he had no bolt action that he had to work between shots. He was firing at targets that he had already practiced against. And he was firing from a level position and with ample elbow room, and not through a half-open window in a cramped space.

Do you know what happened when the WC had three Master-rated riflemen use the alleged murder rifle in a test to try to duplicate Oswald's alleged feat? They failed miserably, even though they were firing from only 30 feet up, not 60 feet up, even though they were firing at stationary targets, and even though they could take as much time as they wanted for their first shot.

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