There seems to be a problem with Officer Baker's testimony.

[Royell Storing]

Norman, Jarman and Williams ran down the stairs and no one saw or heard them. Adams and Styles ran down the stairs and no one saw them or heard them. Truly and Baker ran up the stairs and only Oswald saw them. It seems that the people in the building didn't hear things you think they should have.

It also seems the boards weren't as creaky as you believe. Roy Lewis, one of the order fillers who worked in the building:

   You're forgetting about Norman hearing the carcano hulls hit the ceiling/floor above him. If that can be heard, a grown man moving across that same floor can be heard below too.
   Those "sneaking up" hijinks must have happened on different floor(s)and/or outside of the sniper's nest corner. Besides, the stairwell is Kitty-Corner from the sniper's nest. Nobody is gonna go to all the trouble to climb that stairwell and then tip toe across the entire 6th Floor just to "Boo" somebody.

[Royell Storing]

Provide some specifics where I've interpreted evidence based on my preconceived notions.


Nope. The Dillard pic confirms that none of the four women were at the open window at the time that the photo was taken. Nothing more than that.

We don't have Dorothy Garner's recollection that Adams and Styles went down the stairs before Truly and Baker came up. All we have is a document written by Martha Stroud saying that Garner said that Adams went down the stairs before Truly and a policeman came up. We are not told who Garner said that to.

You are pathetic. You need to believe that Shelley and Lovelady lied. In the Darnell film, we can see Lovelady walking westward after the shooting. It appears that Shelley is walking close to him traveling in the same direction. That confirms their testimonies that they went to the railway tracks after the shooting. And yes, that is Lovelady.

Sandra Styles: "We did linger at the window a bit trying to sort it out, and I'm sure it was Vicki's idea to go find out what was going on; therefore we wouldn't have waited a long time to make the decision to go downstairs. I am certain that we went to the public elevator first, but may not have waited long there either."
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 Sean Murphy: Could she recall what her initial time estimate for their going to the stairs was - i.e. before she was told that the police didn't get to the Depository for 15-20 minutes?

Her answer: 'Not less than a minute, I thought more like a couple

    Unless the currently accepted timeline on the Darnell Film is incorrect, Shelley and Lovelady had their own timeline Wrong. They both gave corroborating WC Testimony that it took them roughly 2-3 minutes to begin heading down the Elm St Ext. If they got that wrong, what else might they have been incorrect about? The other option would be we are Not seeing Shelley and Lovelady heading down the Elm St Ext on the Darnell Film.

[Tim Nickerson]

    Unless the currently accepted timeline on the Darnell Film is incorrect, Shelley and Lovelady had their own timeline Wrong. They both gave corroborating WC Testimony that it took them roughly 2-3 minutes to begin heading down the Elm St Ext. If they got that wrong, what else might they have been incorrect about? The other option would be we are Not seeing Shelley and Lovelady heading down the Elm St Ext on the Darnell Film.

Lovelady and Shelley definitely had their timelines wrong when they testified in April 1964. Just as others had their timelines wrong when testifying months after the assassination. Benavides testified that he sat in his truck for a few minutes after seeing Oswald disappear around the corner of the house that the Davis girls lived in.

[Royell Storing]

Lovelady and Shelley definitely had their timelines wrong when they testified in April 1964. Just as others had their timelines wrong when testifying months after the assassination. Benavides testified that he sat in his truck for a few minutes after seeing Oswald disappear around the corner of the house that the Davis girls lived in.

   Give the Shelley/Lovelady WC testimony of 2-3 minutes some thought. They also testified that they re-entered the TSBD via the very back dock where Roy Truly and the other managers parked their cars. It is possible that Adams/Styles saw Lovelady/Shelley after they RE-ENTERED the TSBD. This would then put Adams/Styles on the stairwell at roughly 3-4 minutes After the kill shot. Adams/Styles are also claimed to have seen DPD Cops down on the 1st floor when they saw Shelley/Lovelady. These cops inside the TSBD would also jibe with the Shelley/Lovelady claimed timeline of walking down the Elm St Ext 2-3 minutes after the kill shot.

[Tim Nickerson]

   Give the Shelley/Lovelady WC testimony of 2-3 minutes some thought. They also testified that they re-entered the TSBD via the very back dock where Roy Truly and the other managers parked their cars. It is possible that Adams/Styles saw Lovelady/Shelley after they RE-ENTERED the TSBD. This would then put Adams/Styles on the stairwell at roughly 3-4 minutes After the kill shot. Adams/Styles are also claimed to have seen DPD Cops down on the 1st floor when they saw Shelley/Lovelady. These cops inside the TSBD would also jibe with the Shelley/Lovelady claimed timeline of walking down the Elm St Ext 2-3 minutes after the kill shot.

I'm sorry for being picky. But in the interest of accuracy, Sandra Styles did not recall seeing Lovelady and Shelley on the first floor.

  on the post overall though.

[Royell Storing]

I'm sorry for being picky. But in the interest of accuracy, Sandra Styles did not recall seeing Lovelady and Shelley on the first floor.

  on the post overall though.

   Thanks for the correction. Shelley is not as firm with his testimony as Lovelady either. There are people that are just bad at measuring the passage of time. People have repeatedly been told those 2 guys walking down the Elm Ext on the Darnell Film are Lovelady & Shelley, but we do Not know that to be a fact. With this "urban legend" being attached to an image/Darnell Film, it has cavalierly been accepted as being fact.   

[Dan O'meara]

Provide some specifics where I've interpreted evidence based on my preconceived notions.

How else do you explain your interpretation of the Stroud document:

"Dorothy Garner saw Baker and Truly on the fourth floor and assumed that they had just come up, when they were actually on their way done. That's my best guess."

Your "best guess"?
Why not just accept it at face value?

Nope. The Dillard pic confirms that none of the four women were at the open window at the time that the photo was taken. Nothing more than that.

Adams claims she was on the move incredibly quickly. It takes the limo approximately 6 seconds to reach the underpass and Adams is already in motion. Adams and Styles head off together and Dorothy Garner, according to her interview with Ernest, follows behind them. This is why they are no longer visible in the Dillard pic.
Garner follows Adams and Styles into the storage area behind their offices and, although she doesn't actually see them heading down the stairs, she is close enough behind them to hear them clattering down the stairs in their high heels. Minutes later she reports that Truly and a police officer come up the same stairs Adams and Styles have descended (the Stroud document).

We don't have Dorothy Garner's recollection that Adams and Styles went down the stairs before Truly and Baker came up. All we have is a document written by Martha Stroud saying that Garner said that Adams went down the stairs before Truly and a policeman came up. We are not told who Garner said that to.

?? We don't have Garner's recollection, we just have a record of what she said ??
Do you realise what you're saying?

You are pathetic.

Now, now, Timothy.
Play nice.

You need to believe that Shelley and Lovelady lied.

?? Why do I "need" that ??

In the Darnell film, we can see Lovelady walking westward after the shooting. It appears that Shelley is walking close to him traveling in the same direction. That confirms their testimonies that they went to the railway tracks after the shooting. And yes, that is Lovelady.

Although the men you are referring to are walking in the same direction they are clearly not walking together.
Anyone can see that.
'Lovelady' starts off behind 'Shelley', quickly walks past him, and the gap just grows bigger and bigger in the few seconds of this film.
They are not together.
And, if you recall the lies of Shelley and Lovelady correctly, they were both on the steps when Gloria ran up to them (lie), this was 3 minutes after the shooting (lie), both men then went out to the "little old island" where Shelley turned and saw Baker and Truly still outside the TSBD building more than 3 minutes after the shooting (lie). None of these lies are supported by the Darnell footage as you so desperately "need" to believe.

Sandra Styles: "We did linger at the window a bit trying to sort it out, and I'm sure it was Vicki's idea to go find out what was going on; therefore we wouldn't have waited a long time to make the decision to go downstairs. I am certain that we went to the public elevator first, but may not have waited long there either."
.....

 Sean Murphy: Could she recall what her initial time estimate for their going to the stairs was - i.e. before she was told that the police didn't get to the Depository for 15-20 minutes?

Her answer: 'Not less than a minute, I thought more like a couple

Sandra seems very confused. So much so she even jokes about whether she was even there or not. Her version(s) of events are not supported by the Dillard pic or the Stroud document or the recollections of Adams and Garner. They are not supported by anything.