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Failure Analysis Associates and the SBT
« on: August 29, 2025, 09:34:15 PM »
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Failure Analysis Associates (FAA) conducted three-dimensional (3D) graphical analysis for a 1992 American Bar Association (ABA) mock trial of Lee Harvey Oswald, using computer animation to model the path of the single bullet. Their findings, along with other studies like those from Exponent engineers, supported the single-bullet theory by showing that one bullet could have inflicted all the wounds on President Kennedy and Governor Connally from the sixth-floor window of the Texas School Book Depository.

Key Aspects of the FAA Study

Purpose:

To analyze bullet trajectories and wound patterns for the ABA's mock trial of the assassination.

Methodology:

The firm used three-dimensional graphics and computer modeling to recreate the events and the path of the bullet.

Findings:

The study demonstrated that a single bullet could inflict all seven wounds on President Kennedy and Governor Connally.

The analysis confirmed that the bullet could have passed from Kennedy's neck to Governor Connally's back and then into his wrist and thigh, as proposed by the single-bullet theory.

The results showed that the required shooter's position was a "splayed out cone" of fire, centered on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository.
 
Other Supporting Evidence

Exponent Analysis:
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A separate engineering and science firm, Exponent, also conducted a re-examination of the evidence for the same ABA mock trial, concluding that a single assassin on the sixth floor could have committed the murder.

Discovery Channel Re-enactment:
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A 2004 Discovery Channel program, "Unsolved History: JFK — Beyond the Magic Bullet," used up-to-date forensics to duplicate the single-bullet trajectory and found it closely matched the postulated path.

Ballistic Evidence:
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An earlier analysis by the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) in 1977 confirmed that the recovered bullet fragments were consistent with two bullets from the same origin, which could be explained by two successful shots from the same rifle.
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Failure Analysis Associates and the SBT
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Online Michael T. Griffith

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Re: Failure Analysis Associates and the SBT
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2025, 12:35:14 PM »
Google's AI software gave me this info without my directly asking for it:

AI Overview:

Failure Analysis Associates (FAA) conducted three-dimensional (3D) graphical analysis for a 1992 American Bar Association (ABA) mock trial of Lee Harvey Oswald, using computer animation to model the path of the single bullet. Their findings, along with other studies like those from Exponent engineers, supported the single-bullet theory by showing that one bullet could have inflicted all the wounds on President Kennedy and Governor Connally from the sixth-floor window of the Texas School Book Depository.

Key Aspects of the FAA Study

Purpose:

To analyze bullet trajectories and wound patterns for the ABA's mock trial of the assassination.

Methodology:

The firm used three-dimensional graphics and computer modeling to recreate the events and the path of the bullet.

Findings:

The study demonstrated that a single bullet could inflict all seven wounds on President Kennedy and Governor Connally.

The analysis confirmed that the bullet could have passed from Kennedy's neck to Governor Connally's back and then into his wrist and thigh, as proposed by the single-bullet theory.

The results showed that the required shooter's position was a "splayed out cone" of fire, centered on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository.
 
Other Supporting Evidence

Exponent Analysis:
.
A separate engineering and science firm, Exponent, also conducted a re-examination of the evidence for the same ABA mock trial, concluding that a single assassin on the sixth floor could have committed the murder.

Discovery Channel Re-enactment:
.
A 2004 Discovery Channel program, "Unsolved History: JFK — Beyond the Magic Bullet," used up-to-date forensics to duplicate the single-bullet trajectory and found it closely matched the postulated path.

Ballistic Evidence:
.
An earlier analysis by the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) in 1977 confirmed that the recovered bullet fragments were consistent with two bullets from the same origin, which could be explained by two successful shots from the same rifle.

A misleading, incomplete, errant, and badly outdated summary. A few facts that you left out, facts that have been presented to you in other threads:

-- First and foremost, you continue to duck the determinative fact that JFK's tie had no hole in it, which proves that no bullet exited the shirt slits, since ample photographic evidence proves the tie was neatly centered between the edges of the collar band and directly over the location of the shirt slits.

-- Dr. Piziali of Failure Analysis admitted during the ABA mock Oswald trial that if JFK is reacting to a wound in Z225, this means the bullet must have hit him no later than Z221.

-- Piziali then made the ludicrous argument that JFK is not reacting to a wound in Z225, contrary to the findings of every other expert and government panel that has commented on JFK's reactions in the Zapruder film. Even the WC's experts admitted that JFK is plainly and clearly reacting to a wound in Z225. So did Dr. John Lattimer. So did the HSCA's experts.

-- Another Failure Analysis expert, Dr. Roger McCarthy, testified against the SBT at the ABA mock trial.

-- The Failure Analysis SBT wound ballistics test was a joke. It merely consisted of firing bullets into cadaver wrists at a reduced velocity. It made no effort to simulate passing through a human neck, passing through a human chest, smashing 5 inches of rib bone, and penetrating a human thigh.

-- The claim that "the recovered bullet fragments were" found to be "consistent with two bullets from the same origin" was blown to pieces some 20 years ago. You're referring to Guinn's NAA, which has been soundly debunked. For interested readers, here's a good beginners' article on the death of Guinn's NAA fraud:

http://www.ctka.net/death_of_naa.html

-- Speaking of HSCA experts, the HSCA's photographic evidence panel determined that JFK was hit by Z190 and begins to react in around Z200, which destroys the latest version of the SBT, i.e., the Z224-lapel-flip SBT.

Piziali made the ridiculous argument that JFK is not reacting in Z225 because he was committed to the Z224-lapel-flip SBT.

BTW, the panel also determined that photos show that someone was moving boxes around in the sixth-floor window within 2 minutes after the shooting (6 HSCA 112-115). Obviously, Oswald could not have been the one moving the boxes.

-- The Failure Analysis and the Discovery Channel SBT trajectory studies, as well as Dale Myers' study, did not include nearly the same amount of data and specificity as the 2023 Knott Laboratory SBT trajectory analysis, which found that the SBT is impossible. Neither the Failure Analysis study nor the Discovery Channel study included a digital replica of Dealey Plaza based a site laser scan of the plaza.

To reconstruct the scene with modern technology, the Knott Lab experts conducted a high-definition laser scan of Dealey Plaza to generate a point cloud of up to 2 million points per second, to accurately measure point-to-point anywhere in the scene. The sophistication of the Knott Lab study dwarfed the Failure Analysis, Myers, and Discovery Channel studies.

https://knottlab.com/blog/knott-lab-uses-forensic-science-to-refute-warren-commission-findings-on-jfk-assassination/

https://knottlab.com/blog/knott-laboratory-presents-digital-reconstruction-and-findings-on-the-assassination-of-president-john-f-kennedy/

BTW, Exponent was not a "separate engineering and science firm" from Failure Analysis. They were the same company. Failure Analysis changed its name to Exponent.

-- Governor Connally, the person who actually experienced the wounding, insisted he was not hit before Z229. He reached this conclusion after studying high-quality prints of the Zapruder frames under high magnification for Life magazine. In referring to Z228, Connally said, "there is no question about it. I haven't been hit yet." The WC's experts agreed with Connally on this point, as we have known for years now.

-- As we have also known for years, some of the WC's staffers cooked up the SBT in response to "the timing problem," i.e., the fact that their experts said Connally does not react to a wound before Z237 and that JFK is already reacting to a wound in Z225, proving he was hit before Z225. The staffers knew that the alleged murder weapon could not have been fired twice in such a short amount of time, so they cooked up the SBT to try to solve the problem.

Any defense of the SBT is based on deliberate self-delusion, given that we have known for decades that no bullet exited the shirt slits because there was no hole in the tie. The SBT was destroyed when Harold Weisberg finally obtained high-quality prints of the FBI's photos of the tie, which prove there was no hole through the tie. No bullet could have exited the slits and then avoided tearing through the tie. This is a self-evident fact that SBT believers just cannot bring themselves to face.


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Re: Failure Analysis Associates and the SBT
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2025, 02:51:26 PM »
A misleading, incomplete, errant, and badly outdated summary. A few facts that you left out, facts that have been presented to you in other threads:

-- First and foremost, you continue to duck the determinative fact that JFK's tie had no hole in it, which proves that no bullet exited the shirt slits, since ample photographic evidence proves the tie was neatly centered between the edges of the collar band and directly over the location of the shirt slits.

-- Dr. Piziali of Failure Analysis admitted during the ABA mock Oswald trial that if JFK is reacting to a wound in Z225, this means the bullet must have hit him no later than Z221.

-- Piziali then made the ludicrous argument that JFK is not reacting to a wound in Z225, contrary to the findings of every other expert and government panel that has commented on JFK's reactions in the Zapruder film. Even the WC's experts admitted that JFK is plainly and clearly reacting to a wound in Z225. So did Dr. John Lattimer. So did the HSCA's experts.

-- Another Failure Analysis expert, Dr. Roger McCarthy, testified against the SBT at the ABA mock trial.

-- The Failure Analysis SBT wound ballistics test was a joke. It merely consisted of firing bullets into cadaver wrists at a reduced velocity. It made no effort to simulate passing through a human neck, passing through a human chest, smashing 5 inches of rib bone, and penetrating a human thigh.

-- The claim that "the recovered bullet fragments were" found to be "consistent with two bullets from the same origin" was blown to pieces some 20 years ago. You're referring to Guinn's NAA, which has been soundly debunked. For interested readers, here's a good beginners' article on the death of Guinn's NAA fraud:

http://www.ctka.net/death_of_naa.html

-- Speaking of HSCA experts, the HSCA's photographic evidence panel determined that JFK was hit by Z190 and begins to react in around Z200, which destroys the latest version of the SBT, i.e., the Z224-lapel-flip SBT.

Piziali made the ridiculous argument that JFK is not reacting in Z225 because he was committed to the Z224-lapel-flip SBT.

BTW, the panel also determined that photos show that someone was moving boxes around in the sixth-floor window within 2 minutes after the shooting (6 HSCA 112-115). Obviously, Oswald could not have been the one moving the boxes.

-- The Failure Analysis and the Discovery Channel SBT trajectory studies, as well as Dale Myers' study, did not include nearly the same amount of data and specificity as the 2023 Knott Laboratory SBT trajectory analysis, which found that the SBT is impossible. Neither the Failure Analysis study nor the Discovery Channel study included a digital replica of Dealey Plaza based a site laser scan of the plaza.

To reconstruct the scene with modern technology, the Knott Lab experts conducted a high-definition laser scan of Dealey Plaza to generate a point cloud of up to 2 million points per second, to accurately measure point-to-point anywhere in the scene. The sophistication of the Knott Lab study dwarfed the Failure Analysis, Myers, and Discovery Channel studies.

https://knottlab.com/blog/knott-lab-uses-forensic-science-to-refute-warren-commission-findings-on-jfk-assassination/

https://knottlab.com/blog/knott-laboratory-presents-digital-reconstruction-and-findings-on-the-assassination-of-president-john-f-kennedy/

BTW, Exponent was not a "separate engineering and science firm" from Failure Analysis. They were the same company. Failure Analysis changed its name to Exponent.

-- Governor Connally, the person who actually experienced the wounding, insisted he was not hit before Z229. He reached this conclusion after studying high-quality prints of the Zapruder frames under high magnification for Life magazine. In referring to Z228, Connally said, "there is no question about it. I haven't been hit yet." The WC's experts agreed with Connally on this point, as we have known for years now.

-- As we have also known for years, some of the WC's staffers cooked up the SBT in response to "the timing problem," i.e., the fact that their experts said Connally does not react to a wound before Z237 and that JFK is already reacting to a wound in Z225, proving he was hit before Z225. The staffers knew that the alleged murder weapon could not have been fired twice in such a short amount of time, so they cooked up the SBT to try to solve the problem.

Any defense of the SBT is based on deliberate self-delusion, given that we have known for decades that no bullet exited the shirt slits because there was no hole in the tie. The SBT was destroyed when Harold Weisberg finally obtained high-quality prints of the FBI's photos of the tie, which prove there was no hole through the tie. No bullet could have exited the slits and then avoided tearing through the tie. This is a self-evident fact that SBT believers just cannot bring themselves to face.

The tie was nicked by something, given the events of the day and the fact that JFK was shot in the back/neck, maybe that would be a good place to start figuring out why it was nicked.

JFK’s back required the use of large amounts of painkillers to control the pain. How do you account for that in all of your SWAG assumptions on his reaction times. Can Knotts Lab whip you up a little cartoon to help? Isn’t the whole basis of your beliefs is that everyone reacts exactly the same way with no variance.

Any breakthrough on explaining JBC's wounds other than a bullet passing through JFK?

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Re: Failure Analysis Associates and the SBT
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2025, 04:19:18 PM »
The tie was nicked by something, given the events of the day and the fact that JFK was shot in the back/neck, maybe that would be a good place to start figuring out why it was nicked.

This is your answer to all the facts I presented in my reply???

We know how the tie was nicked: It was nicked by one of the nurses when the nurses hurriedly cut away JFK's clothing after he was wheeled into the ER. One of the nurses confirmed this to Rockefeller Foundation fellow and investigative journalist Henry Hurt, and Dr. Charles Carrico confirmed to Harold Weisberg that he saw no nick on the tie and no slits in the shirt until after the nurses began cutting away the clothing. Weisberg was able to see the jagged edges of a blade cut in one of the slits under magnification, confirming that it was made by a sharp blade and not by a bullet. This also explains why no fabric was missing from the slits and why no metallic traces were found around the slits.

JFK’s back required the use of large amounts of painkillers to control the pain. How do you account for that in all of your SWAG assumptions on his reaction times. Can Knotts Lab whip you up a little cartoon to help? Isn’t the whole basis of your beliefs is that everyone reacts exactly the same way with no variance.

Now why would JFK have taken "large amounts of painkillers" before the motorcade when he knew he would be sitting in a comfortable cushioned seat in his limousine virtually the whole time?

But, hey, if you want to assume that JFK's reactions were delayed because of pain killers, that creates even more problems for the SBT. Lattimer, to his credit, admitted that JFK's Z225 reaction proves he must have been hit no later than Z221, which destroys the Z224-lapel-flip SBT. So, if you want to push back the moment of impact a few frames or several frames by assuming a drug-related delayed reaction, that means JFK was hit as early as Z215, and no later than Z218, which just wreaks further havoc on the SBT.

Similarly, if we assume a drug-induced delayed reaction for JFK's wound reaction that starts at Z200, as established by the HSCA's photographic experts and by Olson and Turner in the Journal of Forensic Sciences, this means the bullet hit several frames earlier than the Z186-190 timeframe determined by the HSCA experts. Oh, wait, my bad: I forgot that you guys deny all the reactions that indicate JFK was hit by Z190 because such an early hit destroys your version of the shooting. So, please excuse the intrusion of unwanted facts.

Furthermore, pain killers would have had no effect on JFK's Z226-232 reaction in which JFK's torso is visibly knocked forward and his forearms and hands are flung upward, obviously resulting from the impact of a bullet. But you guys universally ignore the Z226-232 reaction because it destroys your version of the shooting, even though it is the second-most obvious and dramatic reaction in the Zapruder film.

Any breakthrough on explaining JBC's wounds other than a bullet passing through JFK?

HUH??? How about the explanation given by Connally himself--you know, the guy who actually experienced the shooting--and by both of the doctors who operated on him??? How about the original FBI explanation, which was that JFK and Connally were hit by separate bullets? How about the obvious fact that a bullet could have very easily missed JFK and then hit Connally, since Connally was seated a few inches to the left of JFK?

How about the fact that Connally's back wound and interior chest wound prove that the bullet that him was not tumbling and did not hit him sideways, contrary to what the SBT requires? His back wound was only 1.5 cm wide, not 3 cm wide, contrary to what the SBT must assume, and the wound tract through his chest was not wide but rather narrow, so much so that when the bullet smashed 5 inches of rib bone it did little damage to the surrounding tissue in the process. Dr. Shaw noted that the bullet created a "small tunneling wound" and that it "stripped the rib out without doing much damage to the muscles that lay on either side of it." So, poof, there goes the SBT myth that the bullet was traveling sideways when it hit Connally's back and when it tore through his chest.

You see, as I'm sure you know, the small amount of deformity done to CE 399 proves that whatever it hit, it hit while traveling sideways. This is part of the reason for the myth that CE 399 was flying sideways when it hit Connally's back and when it tore through his chest. Yet, we have known from the beginning, way back in 1964, that Connally's back wound and interior chest wound refute this myth.

How about the historic 2023 Knott Laboratory SBT trajectory analysis, the most sophisticated and data-intensive SBT trajectory study ever done, that proves the SBT is impossible because JFK's and Connally's wounds do not line up in a trajectory back to the sixth-floor window, just as NASA's Thomas Canning implied to the HSCA when he admitted that he had to ignore the FPP's location for JFK's back wound in order to get it to line up with Connally's back wound?

How about the fact that JFK's tie had no hole through it, which clearly destroys the SBT in one fell swoop? We have undeniable photographic proof that JFK's tie was neatly centered in the middle of the collar band, and we know where the shirt slits were. Anyone with two functioning eyes and a modicum of reasoning ability can understand that no bullet could have exited the slits without tearing through the tie, and that no such bullet could have magically weaved around the body of the tie knot, like a miniature guided missile, and nicked the top of the knot near the left edge.

We've known that JFK's tie had no hole through it since the 1990s, when Harold Weisberg finally got the FBI to provide high-quality photos of both sides of the tie, yet you guys, incredibly, are still in denial about this hard physical evidence.

The refusal of SBT believers to face the hard physical evidence that self-evidently refutes the theory is nothing short of cult-like. You guys are just about as unreasoning and unserious as Flat Earthers, Moon-landing deniers, and 9/11 Truthers.




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