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The area behind the picket fence (and a bit about Lee Bowers)

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Charles Collins:

--- Quote from: Royell Storing on August 27, 2025, 10:36:30 PM ---  Thanks Charles. If anyone has ever previously seen an image of this sprig tree being in this area of the Knoll, (blue arrow), please let this forum know. Another issue with this image is the missing section of the N-S picket fence. To the (R) of that Blue Arrow, we clearly see a tree trunk from the ground up. The N-S section of the picket fence extended (N) beyond the pergola shelter. That (N) section of the N-S picket fence should be blocking our view of the bottom portion of that tree trunk. That same tree stood within mere feet of the N-S picket fence.

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The camera angles can sometimes play tricks on us. I don't know if this will be helpful or not, but here is a crop from an aerial photo made in April, 1967. I'm guessing that this date might be reasonably close to the date that the image posted by Lance was made. Again this was years after the assassination. So routine maintenance might have included shortening the picket fence. It seems to show the north/south section of the picket fence ending near the south edge of the pergola shelter.




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Royell Storing:

--- Quote from: Charles Collins on August 27, 2025, 11:53:18 PM ---
The camera angles can sometimes play tricks on us. I don't know if this will be helpful or not, but here is a crop from an aerial photo made in April, 1967. I'm guessing that this date might be reasonably close to the date that the image posted by Lance was made. Again this was years after the assassination. So routine maintenance might have included shortening the picket fence. It seems to show the north/south section of the picket fence ending near the south edge of the pergola shelter.




https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth1030229/

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   You must be looking at a better quality photo than I am looking at above. I do Not see any of the N-S picket fence and only about 3/4 of the Pergola Shelter.
   I have viewed a short snippet of film on You Tube that showed the area behind the Black Dog Man area. This snippet included a good view of the (N) section of the N-S picket fence. I believe this footage was shot the day of the assassination, but I do Not know that for a fact or even who filmed it. That said, if this footage was shot on 11/22/63, that (N) section of the N-S picket fence looked extremely good. It "glistened" like it had just been shellacked or had some kind of weather proofing applied. This "glistening" in my opinion accounted for the "glare" we see from the picket fence in the background of "Willis 5"/The Black Dog Man photo. Based on the section of picket fence I viewed on this You Tube snippet, I seriously doubt that that section of picket fencing would have deteriorated due to weather by 1967. If you want to view this film snippet, let me know and I will tell you exactly where it is located on You Tube.

Charles Collins:

--- Quote from: Royell Storing on August 28, 2025, 12:40:02 AM ---   You must be looking at a better quality photo than I am looking at above. I do Not see any of the N-S picket fence and only about 3/4 of the Pergola Shelter.

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The first few feet of the N-S section of the picket fence are visible. Further north it is in the shadows of the large tree so we do not actually see it. The reason I posted this is because you stated the N-S section of the picket fence extended north PAST the pergola shelter. In this photo we can see that it appears that the fence ends before it gets past the north side of the shelter. So if the fence did indeed extend past the north side of the shelter on 11/22/63, then it has apparently been shortened. However, this photo was taken years after the assassination so I don’t see any relevance to the assassination.

Royell Storing:

--- Quote from: Charles Collins on August 28, 2025, 12:59:52 AM ---
The first few feet of the N-S section of the picket fence are visible. Further north it is in the shadows of the large tree so we do not actually see it. The reason I posted this is because you stated the N-S section of the picket fence extended north PAST the pergola shelter. In this photo we can see that it appears that the fence ends before it gets past the north side of the shelter. So if the fence did indeed extend past the north side of the shelter on 11/22/63, then it has apparently been shortened. However, this photo was taken years after the assassination so I don’t see any relevance to the assassination.

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   Just my opinion, but the missing section of picket fencing we are discussing is in the same general area as Black Dog Man, Gordon Arnold, and Badge Man. If it was just arbitrarily decided to replace this section of picket fencing when it did Not require such, that's an issue. And that same section of picket fencing looks close to brand new on the You Tube film snippet I previously referenced.  Personally, I still regard Dealey Plaza as a Murder Scene. 

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