JFK's Dramatic Z226-232 Reaction: More Proof that the SBT Is a Silly Myth

[Michael T. Griffith]

Storing,

"Knott Lab Forensic Science" is an oxymoron.

Wrong. Knott Laboratory specializes in forensic reconstruction and engineering and is recognized as a leader in the field. Knott has worked on several high-profile cases, including the Firestone tire failures, the KC power plant explosion, the Miller Park crane collapse, and the Air France Flight 447 crash.

Do you just not understand the sophistication of the Knott Lab SBT trajectory analysis? Do you understand that it dwarfs all previous analyses (WC, HSCA, Myers, Vaughan) because of the unprecedented amount of data and a laser-based digital replica of Dealey Plaza? Knott Laboratory conducted a high-definition laser scan of Dealey Plaza to generate a point cloud of nearly 2 million points per second to accurately measure point-to-point anywhere in the scene. Nothing like that had ever been done before.

From this point cloud, Knott's forensic engineers were able to match images from the scene and the Zapruder film using photogrammetry. They modeled the presidential limousine using multiple photographs and established the correct dimensions of the vehicle. Through a process called match moving, they synced frames from the Zapruder film into the digital recreation of the scene. The match moving enabled the alignment of the digital models of Kennedy and Connally in the vehicle to establish their positions frame by frame throughout the incident. That's why the Knott Lab analysis puts JFK and Connally in the correct horizontal positions in relation to each other and to the right side of the car's interior, whereas shoddy pro-SBT analyses have had to shift JFK and/or Connally markedly out of position.

[Tom Graves]

Wrong. Knott Laboratory specializes in forensic reconstruction and engineering and is recognized as a leader in the field. Knott has worked on several high-profile cases, including the Firestone tire failures, the KC power plant explosion, the Miller Park crane collapse, and the Air France Flight 447 crash.

Do you just not understand the sophistication of the Knott Lab SBT trajectory analysis? Do you understand that it dwarfs all previous analyses (WC, HSCA, Myers, Vaughan) because of the unprecedented amount of data and a laser-based digital replica of Dealey Plaza? Knott Laboratory conducted a high-definition laser scan of Dealey Plaza to generate a point cloud of nearly 2 million points per second to accurately measure point-to-point anywhere in the scene. Nothing like that had ever been done before.

From this point cloud, Knott's forensic engineers were able to match images from the scene and the Zapruder film using photogrammetry. They modeled the presidential limousine using multiple photographs and established the correct dimensions of the vehicle. Through a process called match moving, they synced frames from the Zapruder film into the digital recreation of the scene. The match moving enabled the alignment of the digital models of Kennedy and Connally in the vehicle to establish their positions frame by frame throughout the incident. That's why the Knott Lab analysis puts JFK and Connally in the correct horizontal positions in relation to each other and to the right side of the car's interior, whereas shoddy pro-SBT analyses have had to shift JFK and/or Connally markedly out of position.

Dear Mike,

Are you a Russian troll?

You sound like a Russian troll.

-- Tom

[Michael T. Griffith]

Dear Mike, Are you a Russian troll? You sound like a Russian troll. -- Tom

And you sound like a teenaged prankster.

Just so folks understand how bizarre your reply is, here is what I said that prompted you to ask me if I'm a Russian troll:

<<< Wrong. Knott Laboratory specializes in forensic reconstruction and engineering and is recognized as a leader in the field. Knott has worked on several high-profile cases, including the Firestone tire failures, the KC power plant explosion, the Miller Park crane collapse, and the Air France Flight 447 crash.

Do you just not understand the sophistication of the Knott Lab SBT trajectory analysis? Do you understand that it dwarfs all previous analyses (WC, HSCA, Myers, Vaughan) because of the unprecedented amount of data and a laser-based digital replica of Dealey Plaza? Knott Laboratory conducted a high-definition laser scan of Dealey Plaza to generate a point cloud of nearly 2 million points per second to accurately measure point-to-point anywhere in the scene. Nothing like that had ever been done before.

From this point cloud, Knott's forensic engineers were able to match images from the scene and the Zapruder film using photogrammetry. They modeled the presidential limousine using multiple photographs and established the correct dimensions of the vehicle. Through a process called match moving, they synced frames from the Zapruder film into the digital recreation of the scene. The match moving enabled the alignment of the digital models of Kennedy and Connally in the vehicle to establish their positions frame by frame throughout the incident. That's why the Knott Lab analysis puts JFK and Connally in the correct horizontal positions in relation to each other and to the right side of the car's interior, whereas shoddy pro-SBT analyses have had to shift JFK and/or Connally markedly out of position. >>>

Now, how in the world you could have concluded from this factual discussion of Knott Laboratory's credentials, reputation, and expertise that they you should ask me if I'm a Russian troll is truly beyond me.

This seems to be your default, go-to dodge whenever you're confronted with evidence you can't explain.

[Tom Graves]

And you sound like a teenaged prankster.

Just so folks understand how bizarre your reply is, here is what I said that prompted you to ask me if I'm a Russian troll:

<<< Wrong. Knott Laboratory specializes in forensic reconstruction and engineering and is recognized as a leader in the field. Knott has worked on several high-profile cases, including the Firestone tire failures, the KC power plant explosion, the Miller Park crane collapse, and the Air France Flight 447 crash.

Do you just not understand the sophistication of the Knott Lab SBT trajectory analysis? Do you understand that it dwarfs all previous analyses (WC, HSCA, Myers, Vaughan) because of the unprecedented amount of data and a laser-based digital replica of Dealey Plaza? Knott Laboratory conducted a high-definition laser scan of Dealey Plaza to generate a point cloud of nearly 2 million points per second to accurately measure point-to-point anywhere in the scene. Nothing like that had ever been done before.

From this point cloud, Knott's forensic engineers were able to match images from the scene and the Zapruder film using photogrammetry. They modeled the presidential limousine using multiple photographs and established the correct dimensions of the vehicle. Through a process called match moving, they synced frames from the Zapruder film into the digital recreation of the scene. The match moving enabled the alignment of the digital models of Kennedy and Connally in the vehicle to establish their positions frame by frame throughout the incident. That's why the Knott Lab analysis puts JFK and Connally in the correct horizontal positions in relation to each other and to the right side of the car's interior, whereas shoddy pro-SBT analyses have had to shift JFK and/or Connally markedly out of position. >>>

Now, how in the world you could have concluded from this factual discussion of Knott Laboratory's credentials, reputation, and expertise that they you should ask me if I'm a Russian troll is truly beyond me.

This seems to be your default, go-to dodge whenever you're confronted with evidence you can't explain.

You do realize, don't you, that Knott Lab's "analysis" was based on graphics from a video game, right?

You do realize, don't you, that it screwed up the position of JBC's jump seat and didn't have JBC turned far enough to his right?

As Mitch Todd has pointed out to you more than once, "Knott's own video shows that they put the rifle in the wrong side of the 6th floor window and JFKs backwound right in his centerline. If they get something so basic so completely wrong, then there is no reason whatsoever to take it seriously."

Question: Why do you psychologically need to believe the JFKA was a conspiracy?

[Michael T. Griffith]

You do realize, don't you, that Knott Lab's "analysis" was based on graphics from a video game, right?

You do realize, don't you, that it screwed up the position of JBC's jump seat and didn't have JBC turned far enough to his right?

As Mitch Todd has pointed out to you more than once, "Knott's own video shows that they put the rifle in the wrong side of the 6th floor window and JFKs backwound right in his centerline. If they get something so basic so completely wrong, then there is no reason whatsoever to take it seriously."

This is just so much bunk. Mitch Todd doesn't know what he's talking about.

You guys don't like that Knott's experts didn't assume the bogus rightward rotation for Connally that your spurious SBT simulations include--the Zapruder film refutes such a rightward rotation. Knott's experts adhered to the photographic evidence, which proves Connally was not markedly rotated to the right. Your bogus animations and diagrams always have Connally rotated markedly to the right when the bullet strikes.

No, the reconstruction animation was not "based on" graphics from a video game. This is an unserious, silly argument.

No, Knott's experts did not put the rifle "in the wrong side" of the window. Nobody knows exactly where the gunman was positioned horizontally in the window.

No, they did not mislocate the back wound. Mitch Todd's claim is based on a sloppy viewing of the Knott animation, or else a deliberate misrepresentation of it. They put the back wound extremely close to the horizontal and vertical positions where the HSCA FPP put it, where the autopsy face sheet put it, and where the Secret Service put it in their Dealey Plaza reenactment on 11/27/63 (look where the Secret Service put the white dot representing the back wound on the stand-in's jacket). Apparently Mitch Todd is relying on the WC's placement of the wound, which was too far to the right and too high.

Are you ever going to deal with the self-evident implications of JFK's dramatic Z226-232 reaction, at least 36 frames after he was first hit and 11 frames before Connally's right shoulder is slammed downward? That is, after all, the subject of this thread.

Question: Why do you psychologically need to believe the JFKA was a conspiracy?

I have no such need. As I've told you before, I used to believe in the lone-gunman theory. You have made it clear that you have a psychological need to reject the evidence of conspiracy because you've said you believe that such evidence is "nation rending." It seems that in your mind, America is not America if JFK was killed by a conspiracy and if certain high government officials covered up this fact. Your worldview seems to require you to summarily reject the idea of a conspiracy in JFK's death.

[Andrew Mason]

Are you ever going to deal with the self-evident implications of JFK's dramatic Z226-232 reaction, at least 36 frames after he was first hit and 11 frames before Connally's right shoulder is slammed downward? That is, after all, the subject of this thread.

I agree with you that the SBT is inconsistent with the evidence.  I agree that the evidence indicates that JFK was hit by the first shot.  I also agree that the first shot was well before z226 - between z190 and z200, which is 26-36 frames before z226.

But if you also apply all the evidence, (particularly the 1........2....3 shot pattern evidence but also Hickey, Greer, Powers, Altgens, Gayle Newman), there was only one shot prior to z255.  So we are not looking at JBC being hit by a second shot at z226-232, according to the evidence.  If JBC was hit just before he starts falling back onto his wife at z275, there is no reason to think that Oswald could not have fired all three shots.

[Lance Payette]

I agree with you that the SBT is inconsistent with the evidence.  I agree that the evidence indicates that JFK was hit by the first shot.  I also agree that the first shot was well before z226 - between z190 and z200, which is 26-36 frames before z226.

But if you also apply all the evidence, (particularly the 1........2....3 shot pattern evidence but also Hickey, Greer, Powers, Altgens, Gayle Newman), there was only one shot prior to z255.  So we are not looking at JBC being hit by a second shot at z226-232, according to the evidence.  If JBC was hit just before he starts falling back onto his wife at z275, there is no reason to think that Oswald could not have fired all three shots.

I take it you're suggesting the SBT is not essential to Oswald being the lone gunman? I have always had in the back of my mind that the SBT, while possible, is not critical to the LN narrative.

FWIW to anyone, this table is a very convenient way to view every frame of the Z film in isolation: https://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/.