Did the CIA Know Oswald's State of Mind?

[Fred Litwin]

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Did the CIA Know Oswald's State of Mind?

Jefferson Morley asks how the CIA knew Oswald's state of mind -- but they were just quoting a State Department Memo.

[Lance Payette]

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/did-the-cia-know-oswald-s-state-of-mind

Did the CIA Know Oswald's State of Mind?

Jefferson Morley asks how the CIA knew Oswald's state of mind -- but they were just quoting a State Department Memo.

The entire way that Snyder dealt with LHO at the Embassy pretty well shows he knew he was dealing with an immature, idealistic 20-year-old goofball who was about to get a big dose of Soviet reality. When Oswald predictably came crawling back with his tail between his legs, it scarcely took a mind reader to recognize he had matured at least to the extent of realizing he'd made a huge mistake and wanted his mommy (well, maybe not his actual mommy, but figuratively speaking). Hence the lenient treatment upon his return as well.

[Tom Graves]

The entire way that Snyder dealt with LHO at the Embassy pretty well shows he knew he was dealing with an immature, idealistic 20-year-old goofball who was about to get a big dose of Soviet reality. When Oswald predictably came crawling back with his tail between his legs, it scarcely took a mind reader to recognize he had matured at least to the extent of realizing he'd made a huge mistake and wanted his mommy (well, maybe not his actual mommy, but figuratively speaking). Hence the lenient treatment upon his return as well.

Either that, or John M. Newman is right that a KGB "mole" in the CIA's mole-hunting Office of Security by the name of Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) sent (or duped his confidant, protégé, and mole-hunting subordinate, James Angleton, into sending) Oswald to Moscow as an ostensible "dangle" in a (unbeknownst to Angleton and Oswald) planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's U-2 Mole" (Solie) in the wrong part of the CIA.

Which, if true (as suggested by, among other things, Solie's clearing false defector Yuri Nosenko in 1968 via a bogus polygraph exam and a specious report, his helping probable "mole" Leonard V. McCoy lose Nicholas Shadrin to KGB kidnappers in Vienna in 1975, his hiding Office of Security files on Oswald from the Church Committee, and the fact that all of the non-CIA cables on Oswald's defection were arranged in advance to go to Solie's office instead of where they would normally go -- the Soviet Russia Division) means that the CIA, Snyder, and the KGB knew in advance that Oswald would be coming, but only the latter knew the true reason.

Does the above scenario suggest that the KGB encouraged and/or trained Oswald to assassinate JFK?

No, it doesn't, although Oswald's possibly realizing that he was being jerked around by both "the CIA" and the KGB might have had something to do "getting even" with both of them by killing the President.

[Lance Payette]

Either that, or John M. Newman is right that a KGB "mole" in the CIA's mole-hunting Office of Security by the name of Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) sent (or duped his confidant, protégé, and mole-hunting subordinate, James Angleton, into sending) Oswald to Moscow as an ostensible "dangle" in a (unbeknownst to Angleton and Oswald) planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's U-2 Mole" (Solie) in the wrong part of the CIA.

Which, if true (as suggested by, among other things, Solie's clearing false defector Yuri Nosenko in 1968 via a bogus polygraph exam and a specious report, his helping probable "mole" Leonard V. McCoy lose Nicholas Shadrin to KGB kidnappers in Vienna in 1975, his hiding Office of Security files on Oswald from the Church Committee, and the fact that all of the non-CIA cables on Oswald's defection were arranged in advance to go to Solie's office instead of where they would normally go -- the Soviet Russia Division) means that the CIA, Snyder, and the KGB knew in advance that Oswald would be coming, but only the latter knew the true reason.

Does the above scenario suggest that the KGB encouraged and/or trained Oswald to assassinate JFK?

No, it doesn't, although Oswald's possibly realizing that he was being jerked around by both "the CIA" and the KGB might have had something to do "getting even" with both of them by killing the President.

Wouldn't it be easier just to craft a Standard Tom Response that you can copy and paste into every single thread, multiple times if necessary? Is this some weird loop that plays inside your head, over and over and over? Is this your response at Burger King when they ask if you'd like fries with that? Good Lord, give it a rest.

[Tom Graves]

Wouldn't it be easier just to craft a Standard Tom Response that you can copy and paste into every single thread, multiple times if necessary?

Not until you "get it," Lance.

But supporter of The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with "Xxxx") whom "former" KGB agent Vladimir Putin installed as our "President" in early 2017 that you are, I doubt that that will ever happen.

I suspect that the reason you don't want to hear about the KGB (today's SVR and FSB) and the GRU, and how the Kremlin in 1959, realizing that the USSR and the Warsaw pact couldn't defeat the U.S. and NATO militarily, decided to set up top-secret Department D in the First Chief Directorate (today's SVR) and General Gribanov, not to be outdone, set up his own deception-based Department 14 in the Second Chief Directorate (today's FSB) so it, too, could get us to tear ourselves apart by waging disinformation, "active measures," and mole-based strategic deception counterintelligence operations against us and our NATO allies -- is because you know (or at least intuit) that "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin installed The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with "Xxxx") as our "President" on 20 January 2017, and that he is presently jumping for joy over the fact that TTOB has taken us to the brink of civil war, and . . . well . . . you just don't want to think about it.