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If a CT could come to accept the "SBT," would he or she remain a CT?

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Tom Graves:

--- Quote from: Jake Maxwell on July 16, 2025, 06:05:54 PM ---
The SBT actually functions like an IQ test...

Seven wounds - breaking a rib, shattering a radius bone, leaving fragments in Connolly till his death... exiting near pristine... taking a somewhat circuitous path to do this?

It's all a contrived hoax to do exactly what Hoover wanted it to do... pin the dirty deed on one person, Oswald...

Who believes this sort of thing?


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"Near pristine" my you-know-what.

Regardless, that kind of bullet will penetrate 3 feet of pine board without being deformed.

Question: How many hard bones did CE-399 hit?

Answer: One, the radial bone in JBC's wrist.

Question: How did it hit it?

Answer: Twirling, near the rear-end, and at a velocity of about 1200 fps. That's why the nose is undamaged and why only the rear 1/3 of the bullet is flattened.

Do you think CE-399 was planted by the bad guys?

If so, why and how did they create such a strangely deformed bullet, Einstein?

Tom Graves:

--- Quote from: Michael T. Griffith on July 16, 2025, 01:11:31 PM ---[...]

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Griffith,

IIRC, you're on record saying 20 - 30 bad guys were involved, altogether, in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, the getting-away, and the all-important (and ongoing!!!) cover up.

How many of those bad guys do you figure were involved in the creating, the planting, and the entering into evidence of CE-399?

And how did they create it, anyway?

You know, with the flattened rear 1/3 of the bullet, the extrusion of lead core out its base, and with no damage to its nose?

Did they fire it through a block of ballistics gel or . . . gasp . . . a human neck to get it to start tumbling before it hit something hard?

Michael T. Griffith:

--- Quote from: Steve Barber on July 16, 2025, 05:41:12 PM ---And in my opinion, anyone who supports the SLOPPY nonsense by Knotts is completely bonkers.
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This comical statement is typical of the reaction of cultists when confronted with scientific evidence that destroys their fantasy.

Do you know anything about Knott Laboratory? It is a prestigious, respected forensic engineering and digital reconstruction firm that has worked on several high-profile cases. Pray tell, what exactly was "sloppy" about the 2023 Knott SBT trajectory analysis? The Knott analysis dwarfs all previous analyses in its sophistication and data volume. No other SBT analysis has used a digital replica of Dealey Plaza produced from a high-definition laser scan of Dealey Plaza that contained a point cloud of up to 2 million points per second, which enabled the analysis to accurately measure point-to-point anywhere in the scene.

With this digital replica of Dealey Plaza, Knott's forensic engineers were able to match images from the scene and the Zapruder film using photogrammetry. They modeled the presidential limousine using multiple photographs and established the correct dimensions of the vehicle. Through a process called match moving, they synced frames from the Zapruder film into the digital recreation of the scene. The match moving enabled the alignment of the digital models of Kennedy and Connally in the vehicle to establish their positions frame by frame throughout the incident.

Nothing like this had ever been done before. I should add that Knott's forensic engineers, to give every benefit of the doubt to the SBT, assumed the bullet came from the TSBD's sixth-floor window:

“With the ability to measure distances, locations and angles from the point cloud, we could
develop the exact trajectory between Oswald’s shooting position and points on each body,”
said Stanley Stoll, CEO & Principal Engineer of Knott Laboratory. “Our team tested bullet trajectories
using the two frames from the Zapruder film where the first shots occurred and the known entry
and exit points on Kennedy and Connally.”

Stoll continued, “The shooting position, bullet exit point on President Kennedy, and entry point on
Governor Connally should all be reasonably in line. When drawing this line from the sixth floor perch of
the Texas Book Depository to the positions of the two men and their entry/exit points, we found a significant
angle difference. This case is ongoing, but evidence strongly suggests there is more to the story in this
historic event. Modern science refutes the Warren Commission’s findings on the assassination of
President John F. Kennedy.”
(https://knottlab.com/blog/knott-lab-uses-forensic-science-to-refute-warren-commission-findings-on-jfk-assassination/)

I wonder if you guys are ever going to come to grips with the following facts, much less the Knott SBT trajectory analysis:

-- No metal traces were found around the front shirt slits, where the SBT bullet supposedly exited. Metallic traces were found around the holes in the back of JFK's coat and shirt, but none were found around the front shirt slits.

-- The released photos of the front shirt slits, which the WC suppressed, show for all to see that the slits were below the collar, hence below the tie knot.

-- The released photos of the tie prove there was no hole through the tie, only a small nick on the left edge of the tie. No wonder the WC did not release any photos of the back of the tie. They knew there was no hole through it.

-- The ARRB-released medical files include the disclosure that at the autopsy the morticians noticed three small wounds in JFK's right cheek. One of the morticians filled the holes because embalming fluid was leaking from them. We now know that a bullet penetrated the front windshield from the front, certainly blowing glass and metal particles toward JFK and causing those three small puncture wounds in his right cheek. The lone-gunman scenario has no way to explain those wounds.

-- The ARRB-released medical files also prove that on the night of the autopsy, the autopsy doctors were absolutely, positively, totally certain that the back wound had no exit point. They established this with prolonged probing, both with fingers and with medical probes, and even removed the chest organs and manipulated the body "every which way" to facilitate and observe the probing. Medical technicians could see the end of the probe pushing up against the lining of the chest cavity. We now know that the first draft of the autopsy report said nothing about the throat wound being an exit wound for the back wound.

Tom Graves:

--- Quote from: Michael T. Griffith on July 16, 2025, 01:11:31 PM ---The nurse who helped to treat Connally, Nurse Audrey Bell, said the bullet fragments recovered from Connally's wrist alone were far more than is missing from the alleged SBT bullet, CE 399. She handled the fragments after they were removed from the governor's wrist. She specified that the fragments were not merely "flakes of metal" but were identifiable pieces of metal 3 to 4 millimeters in length by 2 millimeters wide. This squares with the recollection of one of Connally's other surgeons, Dr. Robert Shaw, who also saw the fragments. Interviewed for the award-winning 1988 documentary Reasonable Doubt: The Single-Bullet Theory, Shaw said, "I am sure that the bullet that inflicted these wounds on Governor Connally was fragmented much more than this bullet [CE  399] shows."

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Griffith,

Dr. Charles Francis Gregory was the orthopedic surgeon who operated on Governor Connally's wrist.

Perhaps you've heard of him?

The following is an excerpt from his Warren Commission testimony:


Mr. Specter: Did you observe any foreign objects identifiable as bits of fragments or portions of a bullet missile, Dr. Gregory?

Dr. Gregory: A preliminary X-ray had indicated that there were metallic fragments or at least metallic fragments which cast metallic shadows in the soft tissues around the wounded forearm. Two or three of these were identified and were recovered and were observed to be metallic in consistency. These were turned over to appropriate authorities for further disposition.

Mr. Specter: Approximately how large were those fragments, Dr. Gregory?

Dr. Gregory: I would judge that they were first -- flat, rather thin, and that their greatest dimension would probably not exceed 1/8 of an inch. They were very small.

[...]

Mr. Specter: For the purpose of this consideration, I am interested to know whether the metal which you found in the wrist was of sufficient size so that the bullet which passed through the wrist could not have emerged virtually completely intact, or with 158 grains intact, or whether the portions of the metallic fragments were so small that that would be consistent with having virtually the entire 6.5mm bullet emerge.

Dr. Gregory: Well, considering the small volume of metal as seen by X-ray, and the very small dimensions of the metal which was recovered, I think several such fragments could have been flaked off of a total missile mass without reducing its volume greatly. Now, just how much depends of course upon what the original missile weighed. In other words, on the basis of the metal left behind in Governor Connally's body, as far as I could tell the missile that struck it could be virtually intact, insofar as mass was concerned, but probably was distorted.

Mr. Specter: Would you have any idea at all as to what the fragments which you observed in the Governor's wrist might weigh, Doctor?

Dr. Gregory: No, not really, but it would have to have been very small -- very small.

Jake Maxwell:

--- Quote from: Jake Maxwell on July 16, 2025, 06:05:54 PM ---
The SBT actually functions like an IQ test...

7 wounds - breaking a rib, shattering a radius bone, leaving fragments in Connolly till his death... exiting near pristine... taking a somewhat circuitous path to do this?

It's all a contrived hoax to do exactly what Hoover wanted it to do... pin the dirty deed on one person, Oswald...

Who believes this sort of thing?

Yeah, it's an IQ test...

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IQ test results:

🧠  IQ 85 and Below — "Commission Cultist"
Believes the Single Bullet Theory (SBT) and thinks the bullet might have acted alone.
Has framed posters of Arlen Specter and J. Edgar Hoover above the bed — right next to the Tooth Fairy shrine.
Calls anyone who questions the Warren Report a “Putin puppet” or “conspiracy nut.”
Considers schoolyard name-calling a valid debate strategy.
Believes magic is a valid branch of physics — especially when it serves the narrative.

🧠 IQ 86–110 — "Doubting Dave"
Scratches head at the SBT, wondering how a bullet can bend without a wand.
Suspects the Warren Commission was more about PR than truth.
Knows Arlen Specter was Hoover’s obedient water boy.
Doesn’t believe in magic — or coincidence on that scale.
Still watches History Channel reruns but with increasing side-eye.

🧠 IQ 111–139 — "The Informed Skeptic"
Thoroughly rejects the SBT — and probably Specter’s haircut.
Sees the Warren Report as damage control, not disclosure.
Believes Hoover loathed Kennedy, and Specter helped bury the truth.
Doesn’t believe in fairy tales — or government objectivity.
Open to new evidence and keeps a mental file titled: Things That Don’t Add Up Since ’63.

🧠 IQ 140 and Above — "Knows Where the Bodies Are Buried"
Understands the SBT was a political tool to wrap it up with one scapegoat.
Recognizes the real motive: protect the guilty, not inform the public.
Has a filing cabinet of declassified documents, a laser pointer, and a healthy skepticism.
Refers to the Warren Commission as The Original Misinformation Machine.
Has come to love the truth and fight for justice.

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