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Do JFKA LN's have a psychological need to believe it was Oswald alone who did it
Jon Banks:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on July 14, 2025, 05:46:20 PM ---Righty-Lefty Banksy,
I believe Far-Lefties and Far-Right MAGATs mentally/emotionally can't accept the fact that the organization they think of as a world-class humanitarian organization -- the KGB* -- having realized that the USSR and the Warsaw Pact couldn't defeat the U.S. and NATO militarily, set up Department D in the First Chief Directorate (today's SVR) and Department 14 in the Second Chief Directorate (today's FSB) in 1959 to wage disinformation, "active measures," and mole-based strategic deception counterintelligence operations against us and our NATO allies in order to get us to tear ourselves apart.
And I give you The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with Xxxx).
*Today's SVR and FSB
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I cannot speak for the Right but the Left is not united on JFK assassination research.
There are three groups on the Left:
A) The James DiEugenio/Lisa Pease types who strongly believe JFK was assassinated by a conspiracy involving the US national security state.
B) The Noam Chomsky/Sy Hersh types who strongly believe there was no conspiracy or that it doesn't matter if there was because JFK was a bad President.
C) The people who don't care because it happened decades ago. (this is arguably the largest group of people and growing as we move farther away from 1963)
I consider myself part of Group A.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Jon Banks on July 14, 2025, 06:41:54 PM ---I cannot speak for the Right but the Left is not united on JFK assassination research.
There are three groups on the Left:
A) The James DiEugenio/Lisa Pease types who strongly believe JFK was assassinated by a conspiracy involving the US national security state.
B) The Noam Chomsky/Sy Hersh types who strongly believe there was no conspiracy or that it doesn't matter if there was because JFK was a bad President.
C) The people who don't care because it happened decades ago. (this is arguably the largest group of people and growing as we move farther away from 1963)
I consider myself part of Group A.
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DiEugenio and Pease are big Jim Garrison supporters.
Are you a big Garrison supporter, too?
Regardless, did you know that researcher Malcolm Blunt (a JFKA conspiracy theorist!) says near the end of this September 2021 video that probable KGB "mole" Bruce Solie in the CIA's mole-hunting Office of Security hid OS files on Oswald from the Church Committee and the HSCA, and that Solie was "all over the Kennedy Investigation and all over Clay Shaw for Jim Garrison"?
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=youtube+%22malcolm+blunt%22+nosenko&&mid=7DBB503AA54F7BE317ED7DBB503AA54F7BE317ED&FORM=VAMGZC
Jon Banks:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on July 14, 2025, 06:57:03 PM ---DiEugenio and Pease are big Jim Garrison supporters.
Are you a big Garrison supporter, too?
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No. I don't agree with Jimmy Di or Lisa Pease on everything and have criticisms of Jim Garrison.
But I broadly agree with them that there was probably a conspiracy involving national security state actors.
I only used them as examples of Far-Left figures in the JFK research community but there are others of course.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Jon Banks on July 14, 2025, 07:15:49 PM ---No. I don't agree with Jimmy Di or Lisa Pease on everything and have criticisms of Jim Garrison.
But I broadly agree with them that there was probably a conspiracy involving national security state actors.
I only used them as examples of Far-Left figures in the JFK research community but there are others of course.
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Please freshen my memory -- How many "National Security State" bad guys do you figure were involved, altogether, in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, the getting-away, and the all-important (and evidently ongoing!!!) cover up?
Just a few, or oodles and gobs?
Jon Banks:
--- Quote from: Michael Walton on July 14, 2025, 06:12:46 PM ---Highly advise to read this. Shows the history of the intel/organized crime beginnings. So much going on behind the scenes, in the shadows. Right up to what's happening with Epstein affair.
Remember folks - a "government" is not some pure entity. It's run by people, warts and all.
https://archive.org/stream/one-nation-under-blackmail-vol-1-2-whitney-alyse-webb_202401/One%20Nation%20Under%20Blackmail--Vol%201%262%20-%20Whitney%20Alyse%20Webb_djvu.txt
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Yeah, the US govt's cooperation with organized crime goes as far back as WWII. And later, the CIA cooperated with the mafia when they rigged the elections in Italy.
Epstein seems to have more ties to Israeli intelligence and possibly organized crime but the CIA had to have known what he was doing over the 25-30 years that he was an active spook who met with Presidents, Prime Ministers, and CEOs.
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