Tippit Shooting 1:15-1:16

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Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #40 on: July 14, 2025, 10:38:46 AM »
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Guinyard claimed he was polishing a station wagon when he heard three gunshots. He said, “I raised up, trying to see where the shots were coming from.” He was looking around, and after the third shot, he saw Oswald running down Patton.

This is more than half a block away. Under oath, Guinyard testified that he saw the shooter reloading, rolling the shells with his thumb.
"No, I never saw him use his left hand"—What’s that supposed to mean? Was he dropping shells along Patton? How could he possibly see someone’s thumb at that distance?

His testimony contradicts what other witnesses said, and there's no consistency or reliability in his account—even before the lineups.
He said the man came down the east side (the side both he and the shooter were on). But Ted Callaway said the man was on the west side. Guinyard also claimed he got within 10 feet of the shooter before he crossed Patton, but the FBI measured Callaway’s position at 56 feet from the man. Callaway is ahead of Guinyard.

It’s clear he didn’t see what he said. Things no one else saw. In my opinion, he probably saw the man as he was running away. Honestly, Guinyard was likely one of the least reliable witnesses at the scene. He just went along with the narrative.

Levealle told Callaway to come down for the lineup and bring witnesses. Callaway tried to get Benavides, but he wouldn’t go. Markham had already left, and he didn’t know how to reach the cabbie.

"C'mon Sam, you’ll go with me."


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His testimony contradicts what other witnesses said, and there's no consistency or reliability in his account—even before the lineups. He said the man came down the east side (the side both he and the shooter were on). But Ted Callaway said the man was on the west side. Guinyard also claimed he got within 10 feet of the shooter before he crossed Patton, but the FBI measured Callaway’s position at 56 feet from the man. Callaway is ahead of Guinyard.

No.  Just No.

Callaway was NOT "ahead" of Guinyard.

Oswald, running south on Patton, would encounter Guinyard well before Callaway.  Guinyard was halfway down the block, at the alley.  Callaway was three-fourths down the block, closer to Jefferson.

I find it laughable that you criticize like you do and you don't know the location of two very important witnesses.  The locations of both Guinyard and Callaway is Tippit 101.

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Re: Tippit Shooting 1:15-1:16
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Offline Michael Capasse

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« Reply #41 on: July 14, 2025, 11:06:42 AM »

No.  Just No.

Callaway was NOT "ahead" of Guinyard.

Oswald, running south on Patton, would encounter Guinyard well before Callaway.  Guinyard was halfway down the block, at the alley.  Callaway was three-fourths down the block, closer to Jefferson.

I find it laughable that you criticize like you do and you don't know the location of two very important witnesses.  The locations of both Guinyard and Callaway is Tippit 101.

BS:
Not very reliable, if he cannot corroborate your version of Callaway. Is he?
 
Mr. BALL. What side of the street did you see him coming down on?
Mr. GUINYARD. He was on the left side--when he come down--it would be the east side.

Mr. BALL. Did you see Mr. Callaway there?
Mr. GUINYARD. We was together; yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. You were together?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes, sir; he was at the front and I was at the back.

Mr. BALL. You and Callaway were standing at the alleyway?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes

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I find it laughable how you insult others, then go on to make baseless declarations.
Yes, Guinyard is at the back of the lot and TC is south at the office.

It doesn't mean SG saw or heard any more than Ted - He heard 3 shots - Benavides heard 3 shots and picked up (what he called) all the shells.
As soon as the shots go off TC immediately runs toward tenth st. but he goes no farther than the alley.
Guinyard was ten feet from Patton - He said he could see the corner without moving. I don't believe him.
Look at the map - there is an outbuilding/garage in his way - he would've had to move to Patton to see up to the corner.

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The problem - Guinyard describes the discharging of shells along Patton and that would be up at the corner
He didn't go that far north to see it.  - He said he and TC were in the ally and Ted was in front of him.
He was on Patton at the alley - TC was just south of that - by then the killer was further south on his way to Jefferson.

The Commission made little to no effort to verify his account. There’s no indication on exhibit maps or
street-level photographs to support his perspective or location—unlike what was done with Callaway, Scoggins, Markham
It seems they didn’t place much weight or significance on his testimony. - He saw the killer run away. That's it.
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