The Assassination was Sloppy and Amateurish

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Online Royell Storing

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Re: The Assassination was Sloppy and Amateurish
« Reply #77 on: July 08, 2025, 01:54:59 PM »
Storing,

Poor Dan Rather was probably shown the Zapruder film only once, because he was only about 60% correct in his description of what's visible in it. He made up the bit about watching the limo actually turn onto Elm Street (in one of the videos I watched, but not in the other), but it's not a big deal that he did so except to fringe JFKA film-alteration conspiracy theorists like you.

He didn't make up the important bit about seeing Kellerman holding the microphone, however. (He mistakenly thought it was a telephone -- maybe it was shaped like one!) In case you didn't know, Kellerman testified to the Warren Commission that he had grabbed it to communicate with Secret Service Lawson in the lead car.

Question: Why did Kellerman start turning his head so far to his right in Z-148?

As a conscious reaction to the sounds of Oswald's first, missing everything shot at hypothetical "Z-124," or to check out the pretty women JFK had just finished waving to?


  How about we STOP dealing in your world of "probably's"?

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Re: The Assassination was Sloppy and Amateurish
« Reply #78 on: July 08, 2025, 01:58:23 PM »
The amount of incorrect information being pumped out on TV and in the newspapers in the hours and days after the assassination was amazing.
The emphasis was on getting the story out quickly, before anyone else. So many mistakes were made.
Reports were coming in that a Secret Service agent was killed during the assassination. Someone like you would jump all over this insisting that no responsible reporter/journalist would say such a thing therefore it must have happened and was covered up. But it was just a mistake.
Rather made a mistake. That's all.
The Zavada Report proves the authenticity of the film but you know better. The points John makes about the impossibility of faking the Z-film in the time given are just ignored. As is the point that all other films and photographs would have to be accordingly faked, making the whole thing just a wild fantasy. Mistake after mistake was made by the media in their rush to get the stories out but you just ignore all of this.

  Yeah, it's a laugh riot watching You Tube and seeing/hearing Walter Cronkite repeatedly claiming that a SS Agent was shot dead. That's 1963 FAKE NEWS at its' highest level. And it continues to this day via CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, etc.

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Re: The Assassination was Sloppy and Amateurish
« Reply #79 on: July 08, 2025, 03:31:45 PM »
  Is that the same "LIFE Magazine" that printed the Z Frames out-of-order? Made it look like JFK's head was pushed Forward instead of BACKWARD? That Life Magazine? And let's not pretend that anybody Knew with certainty what the 1963 US Gov could do in the area of film CGI. As NPIC Image Expert Dino Brugioni said, "They could do anything" at Top Secret "Hawkeye Works".

How much misinformation can you pack into 1 paragraph? You old timer CT's should know better!

1. Life Magazine in the 60's would never post any Zapruder frames showing the headshot or even the immediate following frames.
2. The two frames Z314 and Z315 that were printed out of order were contained within CE885 from the Warren Commission's Volume 18.
3. These two frames are identical to the Zapruder film we have today, therefore the order they were printed is irrelevant.
4. The acronym CGI comes from Computer Generated Imagery and the most powerful computers at the time were woefully inadequate for computer graphics. Decades later photorealistic computer images were still impossible and even today you'd be hard pressed to pass off CGI as real.
5. The state of the art in 1963 and up until the 90's was all done with multiple runs through optical printers which introduced layers of excessive film grain, whereas the Zapruder Film grain is identical to a straight from the camera original.
6. Gee Whiz, Top Secret "Hawkeye Works" could do anything except hide the most significant feature of the Zapruder film, Kennedy's back and to the left? LOL!

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Re: The Assassination was Sloppy and Amateurish
« Reply #80 on: July 08, 2025, 03:48:14 PM »
On top of that, all other films and photos relating to the assassination would have to have been similarly altered within the same time-frame, so as to perfectly match any alterations made to the Z-film.

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Re: The Assassination was Sloppy and Amateurish
« Reply #81 on: July 08, 2025, 04:16:27 PM »
How much misinformation can you pack into 1 paragraph? You old timer CT's should know better!

1. Life Magazine in the 60's would never post any Zapruder frames showing the headshot or even the immediate following frames.
2. The two frames Z314 and Z315 that were printed out of order were contained within CE885 from the Warren Commission's Volume 18.
3. These two frames are identical to the Zapruder film we have today, therefore the order they were printed is irrelevant.
4. The acronym CGI comes from Computer Generated Imagery and the most powerful computers at the time were woefully inadequate for computer graphics. Decades later photorealistic computer images were still impossible and even today you'd be hard pressed to pass off CGI as real.
5. The state of the art in 1963 and up until the 90's was all done with multiple runs through optical printers which introduced layers of excessive film grain, whereas the Zapruder Film grain is identical to a straight from the camera original.
6. Gee Whiz, Top Secret "Hawkeye Works" could do anything except hide the most significant feature of the Zapruder film, Kennedy's back and to the left? LOL!

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  Hey John! Good to hear from you.

  (1) Where Exactly do you think the images for CE885 came from? "LIFE". Everyone drinking from the same poisoned well gets sick.

  (3)  2 Frames do Not qualify as the entire "Film". What makes it "irrelevent" after getting caught pulling a FRAUD on the public?  Lifton busted this FRAUD wide open. Nobody stepped forward prior to Lifton blowing the whistle.

  (4) + (5) You obviously know little about the film/motion picture industry. The 1st full length Talkie/ "The Jazz Singer" was done in 1927. The original CGI PACKED "King Kong" was done in 1933. Only 6 yrs between dialogue being in a film from start-finish and the Special Effects loaded "King Kong". This is how lightning fast that film technology moved forward. You are treating 1963 film technology, (30 yrs after "King Kong"), like it was "fractured flicker" time. (I reference "CGI" anytime any level of Special Effects are used. CGI is quicker to type and everybody knows immediately what I am talking about).

  (6) You seem to have forgotten the Gaping Hole in the Back of JFK's head as seen by  SA Clint Hill and the Parkland Hospital Dr's. That HOLE is corroborated by the Blood Stain on the very TOP of the Limo Backrest. JFK's head NEVER came into contact with the TOP of the Backrest. The CGI Team failed to remove that Blood Stain from the TOP of the Backrest. Obviously, there is No such thing as a Perfect Crime. The ever improving detail that Technology is now revealing in the JFK assassination images is making this clear.
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Re: The Assassination was Sloppy and Amateurish
« Reply #82 on: July 08, 2025, 04:27:05 PM »
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   Why are you posting images showing Main St and Houston St? Or, are You going Max Holland and further extending the elapsed firing time to include Main St and Houston St? 

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Re: The Assassination was Sloppy and Amateurish
« Reply #83 on: July 08, 2025, 06:07:03 PM »
  How about we STOP dealing in your world of "probably's"?

Why was Rather only about 60% correct in his description of what's in the film? Did the bad guys alter 40% of it?