The Assassination was Sloppy and Amateurish

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Online Tom Graves

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Re: The Assassination was Sloppy and Amateurish
« Reply #200 on: August 17, 2025, 11:36:50 AM »
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Thanks for posting this Zapruder frame.

It gives us a very good view of how JFK's skull above and forward of his right ear exploded outward from the bullet that hit him in the back of the head.
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Online Royell Storing

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« Reply #201 on: August 17, 2025, 04:58:20 PM »

Thanks for posting this Zapruder frame.

It gives us a very good view of how JFK's skull above and forward of his right ear exploded outward from the bullet that hit him in the back of the head.

   It is still frames such as this that reinforce the Parkland Hospital Dr's observations of JFK only minutes after the assassination. So here we see the Flap hanging Down next to JFK's ear along with "something" stretching Up well over the Top of his head. Even a layman could Not miss seeing this 1963 cartoonish Special Effect. And I am not even going to get into the Black Shadow stretching across the back of his head from top-to-bottom. As we see clearer and clearer images of the Zapruder Film, the more it becomes obvious this $150,000 "film" has no evidentiary value. The Parkland Dr's observations totally discredit this intentionally distorted visual.
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Re: The Assassination was Sloppy and Amateurish
« Reply #202 on: August 17, 2025, 10:39:16 PM »
No.

CE-567 and CE-569 alone tell you that the shot which struck the President in the head was fired from Oswald's rifle.  This is completely unrelated to the SBT.

To correct your statement, 567 & 569 themselves would fry Oswald.


A couple of things:

1) Please provide the WC ballistics report that demonstrates the matching rifling impressions for fragments CE-567 and CE-569, with the MC. Also, show us the report that the 2 fragments belonged to the same headshot bullet. While I acknowledge their claim of a match on both fragments, this is the WC we are talking about where Ford relocated the entry wound of CE-399 from the back to the neck.

2) If CE-567 and CE-569 are indeed 2 severely deformed fragments of the the same bullet that resulted in the catastrophic damage to JFK's head, then how do we reconcile this with the condition of CE-399, which penetrated JFK's T1 vertebra, as well as Connally's rib and wrist bones, appearing as though it had been fired into a swimming pool?

The WC agenda was clear. It only accepted evidence and testimony when it aligned with the LN narrative and rejected everything that didn't. Furthermore, how can the SBT remain tenable for you when it is clear that there is no valid trajectory from the sixth floor of the TSBD into JFK's back at T1 and out through his throat at C7? Even Ford acknowledged this inconsistency, which is why he relocated the back wound to the neck. However, even this adjustment did not elevate the plausibility of the SBT.

The only way for LNers to accept that Oswald was just a patsy and did not fire a shot at either JFK or Tippit is to bone up on logic and critical thinking, complemented by some understanding of physics. It only takes a bit of logic and 1 irrefutable fact to dismantle the LN argument, of which there are many. Once you establish this must have been a conspiracy it's game over. Instead, you refute all facts with denialism and mockery. Will you LNers ever learn? 
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Offline Tim Nickerson

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« Reply #203 on: August 18, 2025, 02:04:53 AM »
A couple of things:

1) Please provide the WC ballistics report that demonstrates the matching rifling impressions for fragments CE-567 and CE-569, with the MC. Also, show us the report that the 2 fragments belonged to the same headshot bullet. While I acknowledge their claim of a match on both fragments, this is the WC we are talking about where Ford relocated the entry wound of CE-399 from the back to the neck.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10406#relPageId=169

Ford did not relocate the entry wound of CE-399 from the back to the neck.


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2) If CE-567 and CE-569 are indeed 2 severely deformed fragments of the the same bullet that resulted in the catastrophic damage to JFK's head, then how do we reconcile this with the condition of CE-399, which penetrated JFK's T1 vertebra, as well as Connally's rib and wrist bones, appearing as though it had been fired into a swimming pool?

CE-399 did not penetrate JFK's T1 vertebra. The first bone that it struck was Connally's rib. It struck it at a velocity that was well below that of the head shot bullet.

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« Reply #204 on: August 18, 2025, 07:42:59 AM »

 Rep Ford moved the JFK BACK Wound to the Base of his Neck. This is indisputable. Just look at the Autopsy Photo of JFK's Back. That bullet hole in JFK's BACK is Not in the Base of his Neck. Not even close.

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« Reply #205 on: August 18, 2025, 08:10:29 AM »
Rep Ford moved the JFK BACK Wound to the Base of his Neck. This is indisputable. Just look at the Autopsy Photo of JFK's Back. That bullet hole in JFK's BACK is Not in the Base of his Neck. Not even close.

Storing,

Where would the measurements that the autopsy doctors wrote down on the autopsy cover sheet put the entrance wound, i.e.,"14 centimeters (about 5.5 inches) from the tip of the right acromion process* and 14 centimeters below the tip of the right mastoid process"?

*The acromion process is a bony projection located at the top of the shoulder blade (scapula). It extends laterally over the shoulder joint and forms the outer edge of the shoulder socket.
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« Reply #206 on: August 18, 2025, 03:56:11 PM »

  I continue to enjoy seeing LN's running away from the Autopsy Photo of JFK's BACK. They live and die with the JFK Assassination film/photo images as long as it suits their fancy. The JFK Autopsy Photo showing his BACK, issa Case Closed piece of Evidence regarding the location of that wound.

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« Reply #207 on: August 18, 2025, 05:29:14 PM »
When you cut through all the CTer noise, it was Oswald's rifle that was left at the murder scene.  Some loons may claim there is doubt about his ownership or that the presence of his rifle on the 6th floor means that he was the person who used it, but absent any credible alibi or explanation for his rifle being found on the 6th floor, that alone is extremely incriminate.  That is enough to convict him in any court.  There are many other facts and circumstances that link him to the crime. It's a very simple case at the end of the day.  I have no doubt whatsoever that Oswald fired the shots that killed JFK.  I have seen no credible evidence that he worked with or for anyone in so doing.  Certain aspects of the case such as his motive can never be known with certainty.   Only Oswald knows for sure and he didn't tell anyone but the fact that we can't possibly know everything doesn't preclude us from knowing anything or create any doubt.  The totality of evidence, facts, and circumstances confirm that Oswald did it. 

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