New Research on the Tippit Case Points *Away* from Oswald as the Shooter

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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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You always answer fact with theory. Two witnesses said the killer touched the door, and one of them said the killer spoke with Tippit through the window below which the prints were found.
Who were these three witnesses? You keep referring to them but never name them and quote what they said. Please do so. And which one(s) said he also touched the fender?

The car window was closed. The killer had to talk through the little window vent on the side. And Markham testified that he puts his *arms* on the ledge not his hands. Although she incorrectly said the window was open.

WC testimony:
Mrs. MARKHAM. I saw the man come over to the car very slow, leaned and put his arms just like this, he leaned over in this window and looked in this window.
Mr. BALL. He put his arms on the window ledge?
Mrs. MARKHAM. The window was down.
Mr. BALL. It was?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Put his arms on the window ledge?
Mrs. MARKHAM. On the ledge of the window.

source: https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/markham1.htm

Tippit's car window:


And here with a better view of the open vent:

« Last Edit: June 12, 2025, 01:04:20 AM by Steve M. Galbraith »

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Offline Bill Brown

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Wrong. I quote from my review of Myers' book:

Myers admits the fingerprints on the front passenger door and on the right front fender
of Tippit's patrol car were from one person, and that those prints are not Oswald's. One
would think this would be evidence of Oswald's innocence. But Myers theorizes that the
fingerprints were made by a bystander and that the assailant did not touch the car (pp.
274-278). The evidence suggests otherwise. The evidence indicates the assailant did in
fact touch the passenger door. Mrs. Markham apparently said this to the police at the
scene, and even demonstrated this to them, as we see in the WFAA footage. And,
another witness reported the gunman put his hands on the front passenger door.
Furthermore, why would a bystander have touched the front passenger door and the
right front fender? No witness reported touching the front passenger door or the right
front fender, nor did any bystander report seeing another bystander do so.

Additionally, the location of the passenger-door prints is significant: They were located
just beneath the door's small vent window, and it was through this same window that the
killer apparently spoke with Tippit, as Myers himself points out (p. 67). The vent window,
moreover, was found open when police arrived to the scene. So the most logical
conclusion is that the killer made the fingerprints that were found beneath the vent
window as he spoke with Tippit through that window. But Myers cannot accept this
because the fingerprints are not Oswald’s.
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_j_022lJYli3B5Xyw8wLs-0nl6mDLo2t/view)

Only one witness mentioned that Tippit and the killer spoke through the window, so just because no one mentioned seeing the killer touch the fender does not prove anything. The prints below the vent window are consistent with the killer having spoken with Tippit through the window, as the witness reported.

No one cares about your book "review".

Nothing I said is "wrong".

The two witnesses who stated that the killer touched the door were Helen Markham and Jimmy Burt.  Markham was on the wrong side of the street to make that determination.  Burt was also on the other side of the street and roughly 400 feet away.  Burt's angle suggests that he could have seen the killer touch the door, had the killer indeed done so.  So, if Jimmy Burt says it, it must be true?

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No one cares about your book "review".

Nothing I said is "wrong".

The two witnesses who stated that the killer touched the door were Helen Markham and Jimmy Burt.  Markham was on the wrong side of the street to make that determination.  Burt was also on the other side of the street and roughly 400 feet away.  Burt's angle suggests that he could have seen the killer touch the door, had the killer indeed done so.  So, if Jimmy Burt says it, it must be true?
Myers has this re-creation of Markham's view of the encounter. As you point out, any shooter would be talking to Tippit on the opposite side of where she could see the discussion. I can't see how she could see the shooter place his hands on the door beneath the window. And nowhere does she mention anything about touching the fender.

Note: The car on the corner on the other side of the intersection was *not* where Tippit's car was parked. He was parked further down the street to the left on 10th Street.

This "apparently" she told the police he touched the door is quite revealing. This is a Mark Lane type argument.

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Markham interview:

Question: "Was he [i.e, the shooter] on the driver's side or on the other side?
Markham: "On the other side."
Question: "Did he stick his head in the window?"
Markham: "Yes sir, he folded his hands like this, he put them over the window..above the window..and he leaned over like this."

"Above the window." It's not clear to me how she was able to see some of these details; not from where she was. But this is what she said she saw him do.



Full interview here:
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Offline Bill Brown

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Myers has this re-creation of Markham's view of the encounter. As you point out, any shooter would be talking to Tippit on the opposite side of where she could see the discussion. I can't see how she could see the shooter place his hands on the door beneath the window. And nowhere does she mention anything about touching the fender.

This "apparently" she told the police he touched the door is quite revealing. This is a Mark Lane type argument.



Also.... Jack Tatum drove past Tippit's patrol car as Tippit talked to Oswald through the passenger vent window and Tatum said Oswald had his hands inside his jacket pockets as he leaned forward to talk to Tippit.

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Also.... Jack Tatum drove past Tippit's patrol car as Tippit talked to Oswald through the passenger vent window and Tatum said Oswald had his hands inside his jacket pockets as he leaned forward to talk to Tippit.

Was Tippit's car that close to the intersection?

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Was Tippit's car that close to the intersection?

I'm not sure what Jack Tatum driving past the stopped patrol car has to do with the intersection, but Tippit fell 114 feet east of the corner (based on Pete Barnes' crime scene measurements and drawings).

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Markham's same day (11/22/63) affidavit. "Arms on the door."

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth339427/m1/1/?q=Markham



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