Toni Glover

[Steve Barber]

 Hi Duncan,

  I agree with you that Mr. Euins was in the RR yard after the assassination.  He was also captured in another photograph that was taken behind the knoll, and he's near Hugh Betzner, who was also captured in the same photograph.   

 Mr. Euins is carrying something dark in color in his left hand, as captured in this film clip.  Very could be the hat, or the camera he mentioned.
I firmly believe that Euins had the pedestals confused, and that he is the young man captured in the Martin, Bell and Dorman films seated on the opposite side of where Toni Glover was standing with her mother. 

 

[Charles Collins]

You guys, I’d like to take address a couple of things folks have said I did, that just is not true, even though it is not about Euins.
There are frames of me in the Hughes film with my hands over my head. A couple of years ago I ran across a discussion thread that said, “Is she signaling the assassin?” I assure you I was not. I was desperately trying to get Kennedy to look at me one more time before he disappeared behind a tree. Someone else recently contacted me about the same frames and asked me who I was waving at in the Hughes film. I said, “the president.” She said, “no. you’re waving at someone on the steps of the TSBD.” I said, “No. I was waving at the president and Jacque.” She said, “No! you’re waving at someone on the front steps, and they wave back.” What?!? I said, “I didn’t know anyone on the steps of the TSBD. I was waving at the president and Jacque. She said, “no, there’s a .gif that shows you waving at somebody on the steps, and they wave back!” “I DID NOT KNOW ANYONE ON THE STEPS OF THE TSBD, AND I DID NOT WAVE AT THEM.” The thing kept going back and forth, I won’t bore you with it. The point being, I have no idea what .gif she’s talking about or who created it, but to be crystal clear,
1.   I was eleven. I did not know any of the adults standing on the TSBD front steps.
2.   I did not signal the assassin. I was just a kid delirious because they had smiled and waved, and I wanted them to do it again.
Welcome to my world.

The insanity abounds, doesn’t it? We see this type of thing a lot on the forum. Your experience shows conclusively that absolutely nothing will change some of their minds. If they will not believe you (regarding your own actions), then I believe that they are a hopeless cause.

[Steve Barber]

The insanity abounds, doesn’t it? We see this type of thing a lot on the forum. Your experience shows conclusively that absolutely nothing will change some of their minds. If they will not believe you (regarding your own actions), then I believe that they are a hopeless cause.

 

[Charles Collins]

Hi Duncan,

  I agree with you that Mr. Euins was in the RR yard after the assassination.  He was also captured in another photograph that was taken behind the knoll, and he's near Hugh Betzner, who was also captured in the same photograph.   

 Mr. Euins is carrying something dark in color in his left hand, as captured in this film clip.  Very could be the hat, or the camera he mentioned.
I firmly believe that Euins had the pedestals confused, and that he is the young man captured in the Martin, Bell and Dorman films seated on the opposite side of where Toni Glover was standing with her mother. 

 

Thanks for the clip Steve! Based on the appearance and how he is holding it, I would guess that Euins is holding his own hat in his left hand. I also see something in the right hand of the (officer?) next to Euins. It looks like Amos looks at it when he turns around. It is about the size of a transistor radio from that era. And there were reportedly a number of them being used that day.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

The insanity abounds, doesn’t it? We see this type of thing a lot on the forum. Your experience shows conclusively that absolutely nothing will change some of their minds. If they will not believe you (regarding your own actions), then I believe that they are a hopeless cause.

Yes, but even worse is this forum is the equivalent of the Oxford Debating Society compared to the other assassination sites. There are some reasonable/thoughtful and sincere conspiracy believers or lone assassin critics but they are shouted down by the radicals, by the extremists who called the sober ones disinformation agents or corrupt.

As we see here, this is what they do: Make a charge and force everyone to run around and disprove it. It's not up to them to prove their conspiracy claims; you have to disprove their allegation. And of course since their allegation is simply based on their interpretation and their judgment it's impossible to do. How do you dissuade a conspiracy believer from what they insist is evidence of their conspiracy? It's almost impossible.

How many more times do we need to prove the backyard photos are authentic? How many more studies? Yet, they reject them all. Because the photos "look funny" to them. Ms. Glover is accused of being involved. She was 11 for crissake. How does she disprove this, prove a negative? Zapruder was involved. Euins. On and on. We have a near endless series of these claims that they repeatedly bring up. Whack a conspiracy mole.

[Steve Barber]

Yes, but even worse is this forum is the equivalent of the Oxford Debating Society compared to the other assassination sites. There are some reasonable/thoughtful and sincere conspiracy believers or lone assassin critics but they are shouted down by the radicals, by the extremists who called the sober ones disinformation agents or corrupt.

As we see here, this is what they do: Make a charge and force everyone to run around and disprove it. It's not up to them to prove their conspiracy claims; you have to disprove their allegation. And of course since their allegation is simply based on their interpretation and their judgment it's impossible to do. How do you dissuade a conspiracy believer from what they insist is evidence of their conspiracy? It's almost impossible.

How many more times do we need to prove the backyard photos are authentic? How many more studies? Yet, they reject them all. Because the photos "look funny" to them. Ms. Glover is accused of being involved. She was 11 for crissake. How does she disprove this, prove a negative? Zapruder was involved. Euins. On and on. We have a near endless series of these claims that they repeatedly bring up. Whack a conspiracy mole.

Hear! Hear!

[Michael T. Griffith]

Toni,

I have two suggestions:

Read my article "Faulty Evidence: Problems with the Case Against Lee Harvey Oswald" (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1R1CZaCZfLA5QFjTCHNINcKxTH4cBiPfw/view).

Watch the 2021 documentary JFK Revisited (https://www.amazon.com/JFK-Revisited-Through-Looking-Glass/dp/B0DBBLXVH9)