Windshield damage came from outside says ChapGPT & GROK... interesting...

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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Windshield damage analyzed by ChapGPT... interesting...
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2025, 02:53:16 AM »
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There is other testimony to dispute that....

Actually, there is no sworn testimony to dispute it. The claims made early on and decades later about there being a through and through hole in the windshield are dealt with in a blog entry by Fred Litwin.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/jfk-destiny-betrayed-misleads-on-supposed-extra-bullet-part-two


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Re: Windshield damage analyzed by ChapGPT... interesting...
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2025, 02:53:16 AM »


Online Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: Windshield damage analyzed by ChapGPT... interesting...
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2025, 07:25:03 AM »
Mr. FRAZIER - On the inside surface of the windshield there was a deposit of lead. This deposit was located when you look at the inside surface of the windshield, 13 1/2 inches down from the top, 23 inches from the left-hand side or driver's side of the windshield, and was immediately in front of a small pattern of star-shaped cracks which appeared in the outer layer of the laminated windshield.
Mr. DULLES - What do you mean by the "outer layer of the laminated windshield"?
Mr. FRAZIER - The windshield is composed of two layers with a very thin layer of plastic in between which bonds them together in the form of safety glass. The inside layer of the glass was not broken, but the outside layer immediately on the outside of the lead residue had a very small pattern of cracks and there was a very minute particle of glass missing from the outside surface.
The last shot of SSA Hickey's accidental 4 or 5 shot auto burst of his AR15 hit jfk in the head & the remnant slug then veered & cracked the windshield & then must have bounced out into Elm St.

Online Tom Graves

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Re: Windshield damage analyzed by ChapGPT... interesting...
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2025, 07:57:27 AM »
The last shot of SSA Hickey's accidental 4 or 5 shot auto burst of his AR15 hit jfk in the head & the remnant slug then veered & cracked the windshield & then must have bounced out into Elm St.

Rynkiewicz,

Here's a saying for you from the 1940s:

"Where do you get off?" as in, "You're stinking up the bus, dude."

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Re: Windshield damage analyzed by ChapGPT... interesting...
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Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: Windshield damage analyzed by ChapGPT... interesting...
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2025, 11:28:49 PM »
So that some of us don't miss the point of it all... Here's the summary again, from ChatGPT:

"In your case:
The image shows a crack with radial lines centered around a small, damaged spot. That strongly suggests an external impact (from a rock or other object)."

Of course, everything posted on the forum deals in probabilities...
So, in fewer words, here's the summary assessment from ChatGPT:

"This image, "strongly suggests an external impact..."


« Last Edit: June 18, 2025, 01:03:24 AM by Jake Maxwell »

Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: Windshield damage analyzed by ChapGPT... interesting...
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2025, 03:45:13 AM »

I submitted the photo of the crack in the windshield to GROK and got this response:

Upon close examination of the image, the crack features a distinct central impact point with several radiating lines extending outward, forming a star-like pattern. This is a classic sign of an external impact, such as a small stone or debris hitting the windshield from the outside, which is common on roads. The presence of the impact point on the outer surface, combined with the radiating fractures, strongly suggests the damage originated from an object striking the outside. Damage from an inside impact would typically show more irregular or concentric cracking patterns and might include additional signs of force applied from within, such as a larger break or distortion near the point of contact, which isn't evident here. My opinion, based on this analysis, is that the crack likely came from an external strike.

There you go sports fans... Great minds think alike... ChatGPT and GROK...
Perhaps someone was aiming to take out SS agent Bill Greer... Did he know too much?

But the best minds agree, there was more than one shooter in Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963...
We've been lied to by our government for decades...
The Warren Commission and Hoover were all in on it...
A junior windshield repairman can figure this out...



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Re: Windshield damage analyzed by ChapGPT... interesting...
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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Windshield damage analyzed by ChapGPT... interesting...
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2025, 01:07:08 AM »
I submitted the photo of the crack in the windshield to GROK and got this response:

Upon close examination of the image, the crack features a distinct central impact point with several radiating lines extending outward, forming a star-like pattern. This is a classic sign of an external impact, such as a small stone or debris hitting the windshield from the outside, which is common on roads. The presence of the impact point on the outer surface, combined with the radiating fractures, strongly suggests the damage originated from an object striking the outside. Damage from an inside impact would typically show more irregular or concentric cracking patterns and might include additional signs of force applied from within, such as a larger break or distortion near the point of contact, which isn't evident here. My opinion, based on this analysis, is that the crack likely came from an external strike.

There you go sports fans... Great minds think alike... ChatGPT and GROK...
Perhaps someone was aiming to take out SS agent Bill Greer... Did he know too much?

But the best minds agree, there was more than one shooter in Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963...
We've been lied to by our government for decades...
The Warren Commission and Hoover were all in on it...
A junior windshield repairman can figure this out...


From ChatGPT:

If a windshield is struck by a object on the inside, what side of the windshield will radial cracks appear?

If a windshield is struck by an object from the inside, the radial cracks will appear on the outside surface of the windshield.

Here's why:
When an object hits the windshield, the impact side experiences compressive forces, while the opposite side experiences tensile forces. Glass is much weaker under tension than compression, so it tends to crack on the side opposite the impact.

Radial cracks: These are the straight-line cracks that radiate out from the point of impact.

They form on the side opposite to the impact, where the tensile stress is greatest.

So, if the impact is from inside the vehicle:

Radial cracks will appear on the outside of the windshield.

The inside may show some crushing or localized damage (like a small cone), but the major crack propagation (radial and concentric cracks) will be on the outer surface.


From Grok:

If a car windshield is struck by a object on the inside, what side of the windshield will radial cracks appear?

When a car windshield is struck by an object from the inside, research suggests that radial cracks will primarily appear on the outside of the windshield. This is based on forensic glass analysis, which indicates that radial cracks form right angles on the side opposite to where the force was applied, known as the "3R rule" (Radial cracks form a Right angle on the Reverse side of the force). For an inside impact, this means the outside of the windshield shows the characteristic right-angle pattern, helping determine the direction of the force.
Background on Glass Fractures
Radial cracks are fractures that extend outward from the impact point, resembling a star-like pattern. They are crucial in forensic science for determining the direction of impact, especially in cases like car accidents or break-ins.
Application of the 3R Rule
The 3R rule is a standard method in forensic analysis, suggesting that when glass is struck from one side, the radial cracks will have their perpendicular stress marks on the opposite side. For a strike from inside the car, this means the outside of the windshield will show these diagnostic features.
Visibility and Interpretation
While radial cracks may be visible on both sides of the windshield, their pattern (forming right angles) is key for direction, and this pattern appears on the outside for an inside impact. This helps in understanding the sequence and direction of the force, which is vital in forensic investigations.







Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: Windshield damage analyzed by ChapGPT... interesting...
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2025, 03:08:17 AM »
From ChatGPT:

If a windshield is struck by a object on the inside, what side of the windshield will radial cracks appear?

If a windshield is struck by an object from the inside, the radial cracks will appear on the outside surface of the windshield.

Here's why:
When an object hits the windshield, the impact side experiences compressive forces, while the opposite side experiences tensile forces. Glass is much weaker under tension than compression, so it tends to crack on the side opposite the impact.

Radial cracks: These are the straight-line cracks that radiate out from the point of impact.

They form on the side opposite to the impact, where the tensile stress is greatest.

So, if the impact is from inside the vehicle:

Radial cracks will appear on the outside of the windshield.

The inside may show some crushing or localized damage (like a small cone), but the major crack propagation (radial and concentric cracks) will be on the outer surface.


From Grok:

If a car windshield is struck by a object on the inside, what side of the windshield will radial cracks appear?

When a car windshield is struck by an object from the inside, research suggests that radial cracks will primarily appear on the outside of the windshield. This is based on forensic glass analysis, which indicates that radial cracks form right angles on the side opposite to where the force was applied, known as the "3R rule" (Radial cracks form a Right angle on the Reverse side of the force). For an inside impact, this means the outside of the windshield shows the characteristic right-angle pattern, helping determine the direction of the force.
Background on Glass Fractures
Radial cracks are fractures that extend outward from the impact point, resembling a star-like pattern. They are crucial in forensic science for determining the direction of impact, especially in cases like car accidents or break-ins.
Application of the 3R Rule
The 3R rule is a standard method in forensic analysis, suggesting that when glass is struck from one side, the radial cracks will have their perpendicular stress marks on the opposite side. For a strike from inside the car, this means the outside of the windshield will show these diagnostic features.
Visibility and Interpretation
While radial cracks may be visible on both sides of the windshield, their pattern (forming right angles) is key for direction, and this pattern appears on the outside for an inside impact. This helps in understanding the sequence and direction of the force, which is vital in forensic investigations.



Here's the big difference that shouldn't be overlooked...
When the ACTUAL image of the damaged windshield is submitted for GROK and ChatGPT to analyze - not a hypothetical - both are responding to the image itself...
AND BOTH conclude with the very same assessment:

"The crack likely came from an external strike."



So, again... Great minds think alike... ChatGPT and GROK...

Perhaps someone was aiming to take out SS agent Bill Greer... Did he know too much?

But the best minds agree, there was more than one shooter in Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963...
We've been lied to by our government for decades...
The Warren Commission and Hoover were all in on it...

A junior windshield repairman can figure this out...

« Last Edit: June 19, 2025, 03:04:22 PM by Jake Maxwell »

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Windshield damage analyzed by ChapGPT... interesting...
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2025, 03:01:42 AM »

Here's the big difference that shouldn't be overlooked...
When the ACTUAL image of the damaged windshield is submitted for GROK and ChatGPT to analyze - not a hypothetical - both are responding to the image itself...
AND BOTH conclude with the very same assessment:

"The crack likely came from an external strike."



So, again... Great minds think alike... ChatGPT and GROK...

Perhaps someone was aiming to take out SS agent Bill Greer... Did he know too much?

But the best minds agree, there was more than one shooter in Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963...
We've been lied to by our government for decades...
The Warren Commission and Hoover were all in on it...

A junior windshield repairman can figure this out...







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Re: Windshield damage analyzed by ChapGPT... interesting...
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2025, 03:01:42 AM »