Hello??? You quote me but your responses then sound as though you're talking to someone else.
I have NO IDEA what you're talking about here. The WC attorneys, of course, saw Randle as she testified - saw what she was doing when she said "carried it this way." I assume what she was doing was holding down her right hand and arm at her side and swinging her arm as one does when one walks.
Unless I've completely misinterpreted something, you've been feuding with Michael on the basis of your belief that Oswald somehow had the rifle in both hands when Randle said "carried this way" with one end "almost touching the ground." If that isn't your belief, feel free to correct me but Michael certainly seems to have thought this was your belief in a discussion that spanned numerous posts on another thread.
Have you read ANY of this thread?
I - i.e., Lance - supposedly believe in a 27" package. WHAT???
I believe it was me - i.e., Lance - who SUGGESTED Randle was covering for her brother. In any event, I fleshed out that notion EXTENSIVELY on this thread. I said I was willing to chalk up Frazier's and Randle's estimates to innocent mistakes but that deflecting suspicion from Frazier was a distinct possibility.
Your mistake, I believe, is in insisting that "carried this way" means Oswald had his left hand on the package. Randle said nothing about his left hand, as Michael keeps pointing out. I believe, and as far as I know so does pretty much everyone else, that Randle is simply describing Oswald holding the top of the package in his right hand with the bottom end nearly reaching the ground, and that "carried this way" simply and reasonably means "with the package hanging down toward the ground as he walked along."
This may be the most bizarre single post I've ever responded to.
I - i.e., Lance - HAVE NEVER SUGGESTED IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM that I thought the bag was 27".
We have discussed Randle's original three-foot estimate EXTENSIVELY on this thread. I have MADE CLEAR that I believe this was a correct estimate and that her changed story was to conform to her brother's story, either simply not to make him look silly or to deflect suspicion away from him. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???
I believe the disassembled rifle was in the package and that the package was the length of the disassembled rifle. IS THAT CLEAR? I believe it's unlikely that Oswald assembled the rifle in the Paine garage and carried it full-length because (1) this would have been very risky and (2) the package would have less plausibly resembled curtain rods. IS THAT CLEAR?
Regardless of the length of the package, if he "carried the bottom" with his left hand and the bottom "almost touched the ground," he would have been bent over like Quasimodo. That is not only physically silly, but it is not the most plausible or reasonable interpretation of what Randle said.
To repeat: I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT OR HOW YOU COULD POSSIBLY BE SO CONFUSED AS TO THINK I HOLD THE POSITIONS YOU APPATRENTLY THINK I DO.
It truly appears to me that you are quoting me but actually responding to someone else because NOTHING you have said meshes with ANYTHING I have said throughout umpteen posts on this thread.
Oh, lest I forget: Your "baseball bat" analogy. The 12/2/63 FBI report simply says that McNeely "grasped the TOP OF THIS SACK with his RIGHT HAND, much like a right handed batter would PICK UP A BASEBALL BAT when approaching the plate." Perhaps you are not a baseball fan, but right-handed batters do not carry a bat in both hands as they approach the plate. They carry it like I believe Randle was describing - knob end in hand, bat dangling toward ground. Randle specifically said at the WC that the bulky end was toward the ground and that Oswald "gripped" the other end in his right hand "like this," which would indeed have him holding the package precisely the way a batter holds the knob end of a bat as he approaches the plate. (Interestingly, the average length of an MLB bat is 34", and the rules allow bats up to 42".)
Are we done, or do you require further clarification of what I - i.e., Lance - have been saying throughout this entire thread?
Are we done, or do you require further clarification of what I - i.e., Lance - have been saying throughout this entire thread? No. I will clarify it.
It does not matter what you believe or what you assume. This is about what did Linnie see and what did she state.
You stated one thing but then post a picture that represents something completely different. The BB Player and John M’s picture, on page 16, correlate on the length of the bat/rifle--27 inches. Given the BB player is 5 feet 9 inches tall like LHO, then his hands would be approximately 27 inches from the ground. The bat is 27 inches long not 42 inches.
The BB player picture is a depiction of a player with a 27 inch bat. Imagine what it would look like if his left hand was below his right. He would be bent over.
In a comparison of BB player to LHO carrying the bag. The end of the bat should be up above the BB’s player’s elbow. It should be gripped in his right hand hanging straight down and then according to Linnie May was supported by his left hand below his belt. That is what Linnie May was describing. No where does she place LHO’s hand under the bottom of the package. Linnie said “and the bottom, he carried it this way, you know.” Not under it. Almost touching the ground rules out a 27 inch bag gripped in his right hand with left hand carrying it below the right and LHO walking erect.
You are right that same depiction of LHO with a 27 inch package would have him bent over. That is the point. He was not walking in that manner so the bag could not have been 27 inches.
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I believe it's unlikely that Oswald assembled the rifle in the Paine garage.
The rifle was not disassembled laying in the blanket in Paine garage.
