Walk me through this, curtain rod fans

[Lance Payette]

Instead of feeding the trolls, which is playing on their preferred turf and only eggs them on, I'd really like to see their feet held to the fire on the epistemological issues of "What the hell sense does any of that make???"

Since Michael and his merry band will not even attempt a coherent CT narrative, I've made a sincere attempt that I hope will at least provide food for thought:

          What about this?
          And what about that, huh?
          What about this discrepancy?
          And this one, too?
          X said A and Y said B - what about that?
          These two documents don't mesh - what about that?
          Look at this!
          And this, too!
          You can't explain this!
          Why wasn't everything done perfectly, the way we would have done it - huh, huh?
          QED
          And, therefore, Oswald was an innocent patsy who was framed.
          And, therefore, rogue CIA agents with multiple three-man kill teams whacked JFK.
          We don't have to prove anything.
          It's your burden to prove it didn't happen that way.
          Besides, you're just a loser and a pathetic WC shill anyway.

Not perfect, of course, but I think it captures the general idea.


         

[John Mytton]

...and then the cherry picking begins.
  that didn't take long

Mr. BALL. Then, you don't have any pictures taken of the boxes before they were moved?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. No

Mr. STUDEBAKER. Now, I took two of the photographs and Lieutenant Day took two. We took double shots on each one. These are the ones I took myself - these pictures. There's the two pictures that I took. This one was right before anything was moved. There is a hull here, a hull here, and a hull over here.

Mr. BELIN. Your pictures which you have marked No. 22 and No. 23 were both made, one was made by you, is that Commission Exhibit 718----
Mr. DAY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. And the other was made by----
Mr. DAY. Detective Studebaker.

JohnM

[Michael Capasse]

The rifle rest box's position is confirmed by the Powell photo taken just after the assassination.

JohnM

Crossfire | Jim Marrs

"Mrs. [Lillian] Mooneyham estimated that it was about four and a half to five minutes following the shots fired by the assassin,
that she looked up towards the sixth floor of the TSBD and observed the figure of a man standing in the sixth floor window behind
some cardboard boxes. This man appeared to Mrs. Mooneyham to be looking out of the window, however, the man was not close up to
the window but was standing slightly back from it, so that Mrs. Mooneyham could not make out his features...Adding support to
Mrs. Mooneyham’s account of a man standing in the “ sniper’s nest” window minutes after the shooting are photographs taken about
that time by military intelligence agent James Powell and news photographer Tom Dillard.

[Michael Capasse]

Mr. STUDEBAKER. Now, I took two of the photographs and Lieutenant Day took two. We took double shots on each one. These are the ones I took myself - these pictures. There's the two pictures that I took. This one was right before anything was moved. There is a hull here, a hull here, and a hull over here.

Mr. BELIN. Your pictures which you have marked No. 22 and No. 23 were both made, one was made by you, is that Commission Exhibit 718----
Mr. DAY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. And the other was made by----
Mr. DAY. Detective Studebaker.

JohnM

The officer said, no photographs were taken before the boxes were moved.
Then, he back peddled his testimony to 3 pictures were taken before any boxes moved. Yet, this configuration does not match a
photo that was taken by Tom Dillard at the time of the assassination. Dillard Exhibit C.

https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pages/WH_Vol19_0292a.jpg

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Whitewash | Harold Weisberg

"Before they were moved he said these boxes were, "in the left-hand corner of the
window looking towards Elm Street... Right at the edge" of the sill. This was the correct location
according to a photograph taken at the time of the assassination (Dillard Exhibit C).
When shown another of his photographs, identified as Studebaker exhibit J, he twice said of the boxes,
"I put them in the same exact position"

However, Studebaker Exhibit J shows these boxes not in the eastern corner of the window as does
Studebaker A but at least as far west as the middle of the window. Because the entire window is
not shown, it is not possible to know how much further west the boxes were re-positioned.

Both photographs show the boxes at about a 45° angle to the window and piled all pointed in the
same direction. Unfortunately, this reconstruction has the alleged mark of the rifle on the box
pointing about 90° in the wrong direction. Then, there is another Studebaker photograph of the
same rifle-rest boxes, Exhibit D. This picture shows all three boxes pointing in different directions,
with the top box at right angles to the window and not touching the sill."

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Det. Robert Studebaker | WC Testimony

Mr. BALL. The picture of the boxes; this is after they were moved?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes, sir; they were moved there. This is exactly the position they were in.

Mr. BALL. It is?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes - not - this was after they were moved, but I put them in the same exact position.

Mr. BALL. Were they that close - that was about the position?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes.

Mr. BALL. Let's take one of these pictures and mark it the next number, which will be "Exhibit J."
(Instrument marked by the reporter as "Studebaker Exhibit J," for identification)

Mr. BALL. Did you take some pictures showing those boxes?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes.

Mr. BALL. Was that before any of them were moved?

Mr. STUDEBAKER. That picture right there is the one that shows them,
and the other pictures show them before they were moved.

Mr. BALL. You mean Exhibit A and B?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. A and B.

What a mess.

https://jfk.boards.net/post/7363

[Lance Payette]

Odd that the evil, evil FBI left Mooneyham's statements in the affidavit and that the affidavit is included as an exhibit in the evil, evil Warren Report, isn't it?

One might have expected the evil, evil FBI to at least alter the affidavit, if not flush it, and the evil, evil WC to make sure it never saw the light of day - no?

See how that works - we CTers can make the evidence do anything we want! It's almost a form of magic!

Is it likely that an evildoer associated with the JFKA would be standing in the sniper's nest window FOUR OR FIVE MINUTES after the JFKA? Gee, ya think?

For the uninitiated, Jim Marrs was also the esteemed author of Alien Agenda: Investigating the Extraterrestrial Presence Among Us; Rule by Secrecy: The Hidden History That Connects the Trilateral Commission, the Freemasons, and the Great Pyramids; Inside Job: Unmasking the 9/11 Conspiracies; and The Rise of the Fourth Reich: The Secret Societies That Threaten to Take Over America.

I met him once at a MUFON conference. He said I reminded him of Oswald. No, he didn't, I made that up - but I could tell he was thinking it.

[Michael Capasse]

Odd that the evil, evil FBI left Mooneyham's statements in the affidavit and that the affidavit is included as an exhibit in the evil, evil Warren Report, isn't it?

One might have expected the evil, evil FBI to at least alter the affidavit, if not flush it, and the evil, evil WC to make sure it never saw the light of day - no?

what does this garbage mean?

[John Mytton]

Crossfire | Jim Marrs

"Mrs. [Lillian] Mooneyham estimated that it was about four and a half to five minutes following the shots fired by the assassin,
that she looked up towards the sixth floor of the TSBD and observed the figure of a man standing in the sixth floor window behind
some cardboard boxes. This man appeared to Mrs. Mooneyham to be looking out of the window, however, the man was not close up to
the window but was standing slightly back from it, so that Mrs. Mooneyham could not make out his features...Adding support to
Mrs. Mooneyham’s account of a man standing in the “ sniper’s nest” window minutes after the shooting are photographs taken about
that time by military intelligence agent James Powell and news photographer Tom Dillard.

Mrs. Mooneyham’s account of a man standing in the “ sniper’s nest” window minutes after the shooting are photographs taken about that time by military intelligence agent James Powell and news photographer Tom Dillard.

Huh?

Mr. BALL - Which building?
Mr. DILLARD - The School Book Depository. And at the same time I brought my camera up and I was looking for the window. Now this was after the third shot and Jackson said, "there's the rifle barrel up there." And then he said it was the second from the top in the right hand side, and I swung t it and there was two figures below, and I just shot with one camera, 100-mm. Lens on a 35-mm. Camera which is approximately a two times daily photo twice normal lens and a wide angle on a 35-mm. Which took in a considerable portion of the building and I shot those pictures in rapid sequence with the two cameras.

BTW this is usually the time when a CT will say "what about this" the boxes were moved!
NO boxes were moved.



JohnM