How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?

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Online Tom Graves

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #88 on: June 19, 2025, 01:43:13 PM »
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Why this fascination with the stairs.
The elevator could have been parked at the sixth floor.
They all took the elevator to go down?

All I did was spell out a plausible scenario.

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #88 on: June 19, 2025, 01:43:13 PM »


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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #89 on: June 19, 2025, 01:52:43 PM »
        -------  TO BE CONTINUED, (as promised)  ----------------  For starters, how about taking a look at the 3 Tramps Photo that shows The Tramps being escorted down the Elm St Ext and passed the TSBD. See those Huge Gates? See how those Huge Gates are AJAR/OPEN? That side of the TSBD has access to those Huge Gates that are Ajar/Open. The 3 Tramps Photo was taken roughly 1:45-2:00 Hrs AFTER the Kill Shot. Those Huge Gates are also visible on the Martin Film. You can see those same Huge Gates on the segment of the Martin Film showing Amos Euins on the back of DPD Harkness's 3 Wheel Motorcycle as they speed down the Elm St Ext. Those Huge Gates are also AJAR/OPEN at this point in time. This Amos Euins Scene is taking place roughly 5 Minutes following the Kill Shot. This means those Huge Gates, (which are accessible from the TSBD), were Ajar/Open from at least 5 MINUTES after the Kill Shot until roughly 2 Hrs After the Kill Shot. Oswald and/or anyone else could have exited the TSBD via these Huge Gates and easily mixed into the shocked crowd outside of the TSBD.  (1) WHY are these Huge Gates OPEN immediately after the Kill Shot?  (2) Why are these Huge Gates REMAINING OPEN for roughly 2 Hrs?        --------------  TO BE CONTINUED  -----------------------------   

Storing,

It's "past," not "passed."

Regardless, I absolutely LOVE how you REPEAT the word HUGE so many TIMES.

HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE . . . . . . .

Question: Does the fact that the gates were large somehow make a huge difference?


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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #90 on: June 19, 2025, 02:04:41 PM »
Storing,

It's "past," not "passed."

Regardless, I absolutely LOVE how you REPEAT the word HUGE so many TIMES.

HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE . . . . . . .

Question: Does the fact that the gates were large somehow make a huge difference?

   Being that the Huge Gates were torn down along with that entire half block of the Elm St Ext, I do Not believe that 90% of those interested in the JFK Assassination realize how Massive they were. My estimation is that each gate is roughly 8' Wide by 12' -14' High. (Higher than a Pro basketball rim). This is why Officer Mooney could only close 1 gate by himself. Just look at a good copy of the 3 Tramps Photo as the Tramps are escorted passed those still unlocked/open gates. For those Massive Gates to be "Wide Open" as Officer Mooney testified, means their being Wide Open was Planned. Nobody accidentally leaves 2 massive structures "Wide Open" by accident.

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #91 on: June 19, 2025, 03:04:43 PM »
Being that the Huge Gates were torn down along with that entire half block of the Elm St Ext, I do Not believe that 90% of those interested in the JFK Assassination realize how Massive they were. My estimation is that each gate is roughly 8' Wide by 12' -14' High. (Higher than a Pro basketball rim). This is why Officer Mooney could only close 1 gate by himself. Just look at a good copy of the 3 Tramps Photo as the Tramps are escorted passed those still unlocked/open gates. For those Massive Gates to be "Wide Open" as Officer Mooney testified, means their being Wide Open was Planned. Nobody accidentally leaves 2 massive structures "Wide Open" by accident.

Do you really think the architect who designed that entrance made the gates so massively HUGE and heavy that they would require two big, strong men to open them and close them every day?

How is it that Officer Mooney, as you say, was able to close one gate, but not the other?

Did he get completely tuckered out closing the first one?

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #92 on: June 19, 2025, 03:48:20 PM »
All I did was spell out a plausible scenario.

Fair enough. It’s a possible scenario.
I’m just puzzled as to why the alternative scenario doesn’t seem to be considered.
Especially since Oswald said he used the elevator.

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #93 on: June 19, 2025, 03:59:55 PM »
Fair enough. It’s a possible scenario.
I’m just puzzled as to why the alternative scenario doesn’t seem to be considered.
Especially since Oswald said he used the elevator.

Okay.

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #94 on: June 19, 2025, 04:24:10 PM »
Do you really think the architect who designed that entrance made the gates so massively HUGE and heavy that they would require two big, strong men to open them and close them every day?

How is it that Officer Mooney, as you say, was able to close one gate, but not the other?

Did he get completely tuckered out closing the first one?

    Have you completely read the WC Testimony of Officer Mooney?  Doing so will answer your questions. Have you examined a good copy of the 3 Tramps Photo showing them being escorted passed those Huge Gates? Doing so will confirm the size/mass of those gates. Those Huge Gates were not "Wide Open" by accident. And these wide open huge gates were right across from the Bushes that DPD Officer Smith was checking for a possible shooter. Possible bush "shooters" were reported to Officer Smith by a "hysterical" woman.  Bill Newman filed a Sheriffs Dept statement the day of the assassination. In that statement he said, "I thought the shot had come from THE GARDEN directly behind me.......". Based on Newman's physical position at the time of the shooting and everything that was behind him, I believe when Bill Newman says "The Garden", he is referencing those "bushes" that run down the Elm St Ext across from the "Wide Open" Huge Gates. Those "Wide Open" Huge Gates were "Wide Open" for a reason. 
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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #95 on: June 19, 2025, 04:49:59 PM »
    Have you completely read the WC Testimony of Officer Mooney?  Doing so will answer your questions. Have you examined a good copy of the 3 Tramps Photo showing them being escorted passed those Huge Gates? Doing so will confirm the size/mass of those gates. Those Huge Gates were not "Wide Open" by accident. And these wide open huge gates were right across from the Bushes that DPD Officer Smith was checking for a possible shooter. Possible bush "shooters" were reported to Officer Smith by a "hysterical" woman.  Bill Newman filed a Sheriffs Dept statement the day of the assassination. In that statement he said, "I thought the shot had come from THE GARDEN directly behind me.......". Based on Newman's physical position at the time of the shooting and everything that was behind him, I believe when Bill Newman says "The Garden", he is referencing those "bushes" that run down the Elm St Ext across from the "Wide Open" Huge Gates. Those "Wide Open" Huge Gates were "Wide Open" for a reason.

Storing,

Why were the HUGE gates wide open?

So the evil, evil, evil Deep State bad guys could drive an armored personnel carrier into the TSBD and extract the evil, evil CIA assassin(s)?

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #95 on: June 19, 2025, 04:49:59 PM »