Two Wallets? Nope.

[Lance Payette]

I understand the meanings of "plausible" and "possible".

If I typed "plausible", it was intentional.

In what sense - other than "Well, it coulda happened" - is Oswald carrying two wallets or someone planting an Oswald wallet at the Tippit scene "plausible"?

The Wikipedia entry on "Plausible Reasoning" is actually quite good.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausible_reasoning "Plausible reasoning proceeds from premises that are more plausible [or known] to a conclusion that was less plausible before the plausible argument." "Well, it coulda happened" is not the basis of a plausible inference.

Is there any foundation whatsoever for the speculation that Oswald was carrying two wallets? Is there any foundation whatsoever for someone having planted two wallets? Isn't the CT logic simply "There seems to be some confusion about a wallet [not necessarily an Oswald wallet at all] at the Tippit scene ... and, therefore, Oswald 'coulda' been carrying two wallets [which is of no help to CTers] or someone 'coulda' planted an Oswald wallet at the Tippit scene."

The fact that the Tippit scene wallet was an Oswald wallet is not a known premise or even a "more plausible" premise. It is in fact an exceedingly weak premise based on dubious and long-after-the-fact claims. If we KNEW the wallet was Oswald's and another one was found on him at the Texas Theater, then either of your scenarios might indeed be plausible - but we don't. You are speculating from an unknown and calling the speculation plausible. Given the chaos and confusion of 11-22-63, by far the more plausible scenario is that a wallet was indeed examined at the Tippit scene, as we might well have expected given all the citizen involvement, but was simply not an Oswald wallet.

The two things CTers never seem to do is (1) consider all the other implausibilities required to sustain their CT-oriented speculation, and (2) explain what sense their speculation would have made in the context of the JFKA as a whole. This was the point of my goofy little attempt above. Perhaps take us through your "Oswald was carrying two wallets" and "an Oswald wallet was planted" scenarios and see if they still sound plausible. The scenario has to include all the police confusion as well - i.e., why they didn't simply say Oswald was carrying two wallets?

[Martin Weidmann]

1. Yes Oswald's wallet.

2. ...found in the house of Ruth Paine LOL! You can't make this up!

3. ...found in the house of Ruth Paine Double LOL!! You really can't make this up.!!

4. Marina's wallet.

5. What, the decades old memory of a wallet of a potential murderer that was never broadcast on the Police radio and was never recorded, that wallet?? Hahahaha!

Btw Iacoletti, next time try harder, MUCH harder.

JohnM

a wallet of a potential murderer that was never broadcast on the Police radio

How could Westbrook know that the wallet Croy found belonged to a potential murderer?

and was never recorded, that wallet??

Just like the wallet Bentley took from Oswald in the car, which was never recorded in any contemporary report, right?

[Lance Payette]

inane one-liners with which you flood the forum when "Martin" allows you out of the sock puppet closet.

I was living rent free in John Mytton's head. Did I somehow move to your head now? Talk about obsession!

You raise an interesting metaphysical question: Who is the "you" who is living rent-free inside anyone's head?

An obsession? No, more of a fascination with what the psychology of the Multiple Sock Puppet Game could possibly be.

If "you" are actually denying that "you" are the various sock puppets that have been associated with "you" - surely "you" are not, are "you"? - this elevates the psychological issue to a whole new level.

I am currently running numerous algorithms through my High-Speed Swami PC in hopes of developing and marketing Sock Puppet Identifer software.

My current hypothesis is that all CTers on this forum are in fact "you." Those who wish to dispute this hypothesis will be required to provide birth certificates, which they may do by private message.

[Martin Weidmann]

You raise an interesting metaphysical question: Who is the "you" who is living rent-free inside anyone's head?

An obsession? No, more of a fascination with what the psychology of the Multiple Sock Puppet Game could possibly be.

If "you" are actually denying that "you" are the various sock puppets that have been associated with "you" - surely "you" are not, are "you"? - this elevates the psychological issue to a whole new level.

I am currently running numerous algorithms through my High-Speed Swami PC in hopes of developing and marketing Sock Puppet Identifer software.

My current hypothesis is that all CTers on this forum are in fact "you." Those who wish to dispute this hypothesis will be required to provide birth certificates, which they may do by private message.

You raise an interesting metaphysical question: Who is the "you" who is living rent-free inside anyone's head?

That's easy. I am the "you" that you, in your delusion, want me to be.

My current hypothesis is that all CTers on this forum are in fact "you."

Of course they are.... and a few LNs as well. 

[Lance Payette]

Of course they are.... and a few LNs as well. 

You know what? That actually wouldn't surprise me.

Never have I seen anyone be so utterly exposed, make such a tap-dancing fool of himself, and yet make things even worse by persisting with the fraud. Ergo, I'm afraid I must continue to refer to "you" as Team Sock Puppet until "you" fess up and humbly acknowledge the error and absurdity of "your" ways, at which time I shall refer to "you" by whatever "your" last and final chosen moniker may be.

Is Team Sock Puppet perhaps part of Team Harvey & Lee as well? The "five wallets" nonsense seems to be almost unique to Team Harvey & Lee. Even genial Jim Hargrove of Team H&L, whom I actually respect for his dogged persistence, acknowledges essentially nothing is known about the two wallets ostensibly found at the Paine house, FBI Exhibits 114 and 382. Oswald actually had, I believe, two known wallets: The one taken from him at the Texas Theater and the one with cash found in Marina's room, which had been given to him by his mother and which he used to hold his cash savings. I see nothing even vaguely mysterious.

Since Conspiracy World posits the Big Boys planting virtually all evidence in the case, why didn't said Big Boys plant Oswald's actual "savings" wallet at the Tippit scene? In fact, now that I'm in charge of planning the conspiracy, I love it! Whoever came up with that idea, give yourself a gold star. Oswald will carry two different wallets, including the savings wallet because he "needs the cash for his escape," and will clumsily drop the savings wallet at the Tippit scene! Perfect - is it not, Team Sock Puppet?

[Martin Weidmann]

You know what? That actually wouldn't surprise me.

Never have I seen anyone be so utterly exposed, make such a tap-dancing fool of himself, and yet make things even worse by persisting with the fraud. Ergo, I'm afraid I must continue to refer to "you" as Team Sock Puppet until "you" fess up and humbly acknowledge the error and absurdity of "your" ways, at which time I shall refer to "you" by whatever "your" last and final chosen moniker may be.

Is Team Sock Puppet perhaps part of Team Harvey & Lee as well? The "five wallets" nonsense seems to be almost unique to Team Harvey & Lee. Even genial Jim Hargrove of Team H&L, whom I actually respect for his dogged persistence, acknowledges essentially nothing is known about the two wallets ostensibly found at the Paine house, FBI Exhibits 114 and 382. Oswald actually had, I believe, two known wallets: The one taken from him at the Texas Theater and the one with cash found in Marina's room, which had been given to him by his mother and which he used to hold his cash savings. I see nothing even vaguely mysterious.

Since Conspiracy World posits the Big Boys planting virtually all evidence in the case, why didn't said Big Boys plant Oswald's actual "savings" wallet at the Tippit scene? In fact, now that I'm in charge of planning the conspiracy, I love it! Whoever came up with that idea, give yourself a gold star. Oswald will carry two different wallets, including the savings wallet because he "needs the cash for his escape," and will clumsily drop the savings wallet at the Tippit scene! Perfect - is it not, Team Sock Puppet?

You can tell a fool that he is a fool but he will never believe or accept it. 

You know what? That actually wouldn't surprise me.

[John Mytton]

a wallet of a potential murderer that was never broadcast on the Police radio

How could Westbrook know that the wallet Croy found belonged to a potential murderer?

You're joking right? Hahaha!

A wallet dropped at the Tippit crime scene and you don't think that would be highly suspicious to a Policeman looking for clues, surely you jest?

JohnM

[John Mytton]

You raise an interesting metaphysical question: Who is the "you" who is living rent-free inside anyone's head?

That's easy. I am the "you" that you, in your delusion, want me to be.

My current hypothesis is that all CTers on this forum are in fact "you."

Of course they are.... and a few LNs as well. 

What happened to Tom? LOLOL!

Everytime a sock puppet is exposed they just disappear, poof, into another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind; a journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination.

JohnM