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Online John Iacoletti

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« Reply #232 on: May 08, 2025, 08:50:12 PM »
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We factor what Frazier and Randle observed into the totality of the circumstances, from the purchase of the rifle to its storage in the Paine garage; to Oswald’s curious Thursday trip and curtain rod explanation; to the rifle being found in the TSBD and identified as the assassination weapon. The rational conclusion is that Frazier and Randle were simply mistaken regarding the length, which is entirely understandable given the circumstances under which they saw the package and how much attention they would have paid; at the time, there was absolutely nothing significant about Oswald or the package. (A homely analogy, but I've played golf with my good friend at least 50 times. I couldn't tell you if his putter is 36" or 30".)

A textbook example of changing the evidence to fit the desired conclusion.  Never mind that there is ZERO evidence the Carcano was disassembled, or that it was in the Paine garage, or that it was ever identified as the assassination weapon.

We can weave a creative story about it, therefore it's "logical".

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Offline Michael Capasse

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« Reply #233 on: May 08, 2025, 09:01:15 PM »
(A homely analogy, but I've played golf with my good friend at least 50 times. I couldn't tell you if his putter is 36" or 30".)

Ask him to tuck it under his arm while cupped in his palm.
...like a curtain rod.
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Online John Iacoletti

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« Reply #234 on: May 08, 2025, 10:06:40 PM »
Those of us who have been part of this community for years (and didn't just stumble upon it recently and immediately dive in with insufferable ego-driven lawyer rhetoric) remember Arjan Hut very well.  He was the author of the brilliant "Erasing the Past to Protect a Fairytale" series -- a list of hundreds of items of JFK assassination evidence that are "missing" or "withheld".

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« Reply #235 on: May 08, 2025, 10:35:36 PM »
Gerald Hill was interviewed on the day of the arrest and said, “The only way we found out what his name was, was to remove his billfold and check it ourselves; he wouldn’t even tell us what his name was.” Later in the interview a reporter asked, “What was the name on the billfold?” Hill replied, “Lee H. Oswald, O-S-W-A-L-D”. No mention of Hidell. Why not?

Iacoletti,

Question: Did the reporter ask Hill, "What were the names (plural) on the billfold?"?

Answer: No, he asked, "What was the name (singular) on the billfold?"

Question: Did Hill answer the reporter's question?

Answer: Yes, he did.

Why is that a problem for you?

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« Reply #236 on: May 08, 2025, 10:40:18 PM »
Those of us who have been part of this community for years (and didn't just stumble upon it recently and immediately dive in with insufferable ego-driven lawyer rhetoric) remember Arjan Hut very well.  He was the author of the brilliant "Erasing the Past to Protect a Fairytale" series -- a list of hundreds of items of JFK assassination evidence that are "missing" or "withheld".

Yeah, but John, don't forget he lives in the same "one-hour-east-of-the-UK time zone" (which people who know, simply call GMT + 1) as me, where btw most of the EU countries are, so in Lance's very confused mind I must be him.

Give Lance a break, I'm sure he is convinced that he knows what he is doing   :D

I'll be in the Netherlands from 13 to 18 May. I can try to contact Arjan and ask him to give a shout out to Lance.  ;)
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Offline Lance Payette

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« Reply #237 on: May 09, 2025, 12:23:41 AM »
The swami makes no accusations and is convinced of nothing. The swami merely observes.

The swami, like others before him, observes that dishonest identity games are seemingly being played on this forum. The swami observes that the persona "Tom Sorensen," ostensibly an Administrator at the obscure and largely inactive JFKBoards.net, seemingly is or was one of the participants in these games. Since being exposed by the swami as an apparent sock puppet of the persona "Martin Weidmann," the "Sorensen" persona has gone poof like others before him.

The swami observes that one Michael Capasse, also an Administrator at the obscure site, and the persona "Martin Weidmann," together with the persona "Tom Sorensen," share a near-identity of views about both the JFKA and U.S. politics, use nearly identical terminology and ad hominem style, and repeatedly congratulate each other on their posts, often with simply an inane  Thumb1:.

The swami observes that "Weidmann" is an obscure name in the U.S. but happens to be one of the leading beer brands of United Dutch Breweries. The swami observes that yet another Administrator at the obscure site, one Arjan Hut, happens to reside in the Netherlands. The swami observes that when the persona "Martin Weidman" recently corrected his time zone, he placed himself in the same time zone as Mr. Hut. Merely observations, not accusations.

The swami observes that when the above observations have been voiced, the persona "Martin Weidmann" rather carefully avoids dealing with them head-on and instead focuses on irrelevancies (GMT+1!) or attempts deflection such as suggesting that the swami is himself somehow a sock puppet of John Mytton.

The swami suspects that he has uncovered merely the tip of a veritable sock puppet iceberg, but he does not know this and makes no accusations. He merely observes.

What is fascinating to the swami is why anyone would play the games that are seemingly being played. The swami discovered that, long before his arrival, Mr. Mytton had referred to the efforts of the "Martin" persona and one of his sock puppets as "tag teaming," which seems as good a description as any - but why? To what purpose? Is this driven by some sort of deep insecurity, perhaps?

The swami is disappointed that a forum is allowed to operate in this dishonest manner, but he makes no accusations. He merely observes. If those who are playing the game - and playing it so badly - derive some mysterious satisfaction, perhaps the swami should just observe and be happy for them.

Here is a serious scholarly study of sock puppetry: "An Army of Me: Sock Puppets in Online Discussion Communities," https://cs.stanford.edu/~srijan/pubs/sockpuppets-www2017.pdf. The abstract is interesting in relation to what the swami observes here.

ABSTRACT

In online discussion communities, users can interact and share information and opinions on a wide variety of topics. However, some users may create multiple identities, or sockpuppets, and engage in undesired behavior by deceiving others or manipulating discussions. In this work, we study sockpuppetry across nine discussion communities, and show that sockpuppets differ from ordinary users in terms of their posting behavior, linguistic traits, as well as social network structure. Sockpuppets tend to start fewer discussions, write shorter posts, use more personal pronouns such as “I”, and have more clustered ego-networks. Further, pairs of sockpuppets controlled by the same individual are more likely to interact on the same discussion at the same time than pairs of ordinary users. Our analysis suggests a taxonomy of deceptive behavior in discussion communities. Pairs of sockpuppets can vary in their deceptiveness, i.e., whether they pretend to be different users, or their supportiveness, i.e., if they support arguments of other sockpuppets controlled by the same user.

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #238 on: May 09, 2025, 12:31:42 AM »
Those of us who have been part of this community for years (and didn't just stumble upon it recently and immediately dive in with insufferable ego-driven lawyer rhetoric) remember Arjan Hut very well.  He was the author of the brilliant "Erasing the Past to Protect a Fairytale" series -- a list of hundreds of items of JFK assassination evidence that are "missing" or "withheld".

 Thumb1: Still going strong. 580 items. Nearly a half a million page views. (477k+)
https://jfk.boards.net/post/460

Offline Lance Payette

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« Reply #239 on: May 09, 2025, 01:02:14 AM »
Oh boy, this guy is really fu**ed up

Be assured that the swami is neither fubbed up, fudded up, funned up, fussed up nor fuzzed up.

The swami is, in fact, so entirely non-fubbed-up that he does not feel the need for fake names, sock puppets, boring and dull ad hominem attacks, tedious one-liners or the use of inane emojis like  Thumb1: and  BS:.

The swami, like the Dude, abides.

You and Team Sock Puppet do realize, of course, that you are participants in a latter-day Monty Python skit? Failure to realize this and accept one's role can have adverse effects on one's health. Wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more.

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« Reply #239 on: May 09, 2025, 01:02:14 AM »