JFKA CTs need to believe a government agency or rogue actors thereof killed JFK

[Jim Hawthorn]

To the extent the FBI or CIA participated in any "cover up" it was to protect themselves from criticism that perhaps they should have kept better tabs on Oswald.  At worst it was CYA.  To extrapolate from that to participation in a conspiracy to assassinate the president, frame Oswald, and kill the patsy is light years in difference.

[Jon Banks]

Banksie,

Do you think this proves the evil, evil, evil CIA killed JFK?

No. The Schlessinger memo disproves Steve's point about the CIA never going "rogue".

But your problem here is that almost all of that was approved or ordered by Presidents (Cointelpro was done by the FBI). E.g., the covert war on Cuba essentially ended after JFK was killed. Why do you think that happened? Did you read the Weiner book on the CIA? The nasty stuff was on orders of Presidents. Ike, JFK, Nixon. I think that's why leftists like I.F. Stone and Chomsky, and a few others, didn't and don't believe in the "CIA did it" conspiracy. They knew who JFK was and they knew that many of the awful things the CIA did was on orders. It wasn't a rogue agency.

The memo clearly proves that Kennedy was concerned that the agency had too much "autonomy".

[Tom Graves]

ME: Do you think the Schlessinger memo proves the evil, evil, evil CIA killed JFK?

BANKSIE:  No. The Schlessinger memo disproves Steve's point about the CIA never going "rogue".

ME: Why the convoluted answer?

[Jon Banks]

ME: Do you think the Schlessinger memo proves the evil, evil, evil CIA killed JFK?

BANKSIE:  No. The Schlessinger memo disproves Steve's point about the CIA never going "rogue".

ME: Why the convoluted answer?

I answered your question and explained my real reason for posting the Schlessinger quote.

You’re welcome.

[Tom Graves]

I answered your question and explained my real reason for posting the Schlessinger quote.

Left Bank,

Please freshen my memory as to why you posted the Schlessinger memo.

To prove that JFK wanted to splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces?

To prove that the evil, evil, evil CIA (or some evil, evil, evil rogue agents thereof) killed JFK to prevent him from doing that?

What?

Thanks, Left Bank.

[Jon Banks]

Left Bank,

Please freshen my memory as to why you posted the Schlessinger memo.

To prove that JFK wanted to splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces?

I see what you're trying to do Vlad.

I don't know if JFK ever said that exact quote but the recently unredacted memo proves that it was true that JFK was concerned about the CIA "going rogue".

The claim that 'everything the CIA does is approved by the POTUS' wasn't true in 1961.

I don't know if it's true or not today. Things may have changed at the agency since then. 

[Tom Graves]

I see what you're trying to do Vlad.

It's ironic that you call me "Vlad," Left-Banksie, when you're the one who's been brainwashed by sixty-six years of KGB* disinformation (including but not limited to, oodles and gobs of KGB*-encouraged JFKA conspiracy theories), "active measures," and mole-based "Inside Man" / "Outside Man" strategic deception counterintelligence operations waged against us and our NATO allies.

*Today's SVR and FSB

[T]he recently unredacted memo proves that it was true that JFK was concerned about the CIA "going rogue."

Was the memo written by JFK or by Schlessinger, Banksie?