A Very Simple Conspiracy Redux

[Lance Payette]

When arguments such as Michael's are made, I ask the person to think about:

1. How many Presidents, CIA Directors, FBI Directors, Directors of National Intelligence and employees of those agencies have there been since 1963? I posted a list at the Ed Forum of all the CIA, FBI and NI Directors since 1963 and their incredible diversity of political affiliations, educational and employment backgrounds, etc., etc. Many of these, understandably, were men and women of the highest caliber and moral integrity in every area of their lives. Is it reasonable to believe they ALL conspired for 60+ years to hide the Dark Truth and perpetuate the LN Myth?

2. Likewise, how many prominent investigative journalists and media figures have there been since 1963? How many of them have broken massive stories that were highly embarrassing to the government? How many of them would absolutely love to be the one who breaks the JFKA? Is it reasonable they have all conspired for 60+ years to hide the Dark Truth and perpetuate the LN Myth or been intimidated into doing so?

3. Likewise, how many professional historians have passed through the halls of academia since 1963? Is it plausible that they would all have conspired or been intimated into hiding the Dark Truth and perpetuating the LN Myth?

The reality is, 60+ years of conspiracy theorizing have not dented the LN narrative and likely never will, barring some gigantic and unequivocal revelation. The LN narrative likely will be the verdict of history 60+ years from now just as it has been since 1964. Conspiracy theorizing will always continue to be a fringe activity for the proverbial "buffs."

I used to make the same point in the UFO field, where "the government" has supposedly been hiding the Alien Truth since 1947. How would that work??? All I can think of is some secret cabal that has existed since 1947, with the members carefully hiding the secrets from anyone else and passing them on to generation after generation of their own children and grandchildren. Really?

Explain to us, if you can, how this hiding of the Dark Truth, perpetuation of the LN Myth, and manipulation/intimidation of journalists and historians over a period of 60+ years actually would have worked in the real world.

[Zeon Mason]

The absolute minimal conspiracy: Someone in a high place of authority , found out that Oswald was a defector , a Marxist who had gone looney tune, who had ordered an MC  rifle and  a revolver using a fake ID, and that he had taken a shot at Walker. The conspirator found out that Oswald had a job in the TSBD.

The conspirator found  a CIA psychological profile of Oswald that indicated he was a volatile unstable personality with delusions of grandeur.

The conspirator figures all he has do is to ask that the JFK motorcade route be slightly altered so that it would go past the TSBD building owned by his good friend, Harold Byrd. Probably some story given that  Byrd really admired JFK and that it would be an honor for his working class employees to be able to see and wave at JFK up close.

Then the conspirator rides in the motorcade because he reasons that if he does  not participate , his absence will be suspect when JFK gets shot. So the conspirator rides in a car just far enough behind the JFK car not to be an immediate target, but close enough to be able to see the TSBD windows when the JFK limo
turns  on Elm st. At that point the conspirator ducks down in his seat just to be safe, as he waits to see if the Oswald Kook that the CIA  profile predicts will likely act will assassinate  the conspirators no.1 most hated political rival: JFK.

Afterwards when the conspirator becomes the President of the USA, he will use the same method to dispose of Malcolm X, MLK, and RFK.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

The Seymour Hersh/Oliver Stone fight (from Hersh's memoirs "A Reporter"):

In Stone's defense (this is pro bono work), what else could he say? Hersh was an idiot? Or I, Oliver Stone, am wrong and you Seymour Hersh are right? In order to remove his conspiracy cognitive dissonance he has to dismiss Hersh as corrupt. The alternative, the "Hersh is right" response requires completely rejecting a long held belief that was a key part of his public life.

[Michael Walton]

I'm not interested in who did it. I only know it happened the way it did, that Kennedy was murdered not by a single "lone nut" as everyone calls him, but by multiple shooters and there was a fall guy who took the blame. After all, it wouldn't be a conspiracy if that's not the way it happened.

[Tom Graves]

I'm not interested in who did it. I only know it happened the way it did, that Kennedy was murdered not by a single "lone nut" as everyone calls him, but by multiple shooters and there was a fall guy who took the blame. After all, it wouldn't be a conspiracy if that's not the way it happened.

It's obvious that, due to your being zombified by 60-plus years of KGB* JFKA disinformation, it's what you need to believe.

*Today's SVR and FSB

[John Iacoletti]

Counter argument:
Michael, didn't the coloured guys on the 5th floor actually see the rifle barrel sticking out of the window above them and heard the cartridges hit the floor?

They didn't see a barrel.  Only one claimed to hear something hitting the floor.

[Jim Hawthorn]

They didn't see a barrel.  Only one claimed to hear something hitting the floor.

Didn't one of them say that he saw what he thought was a pipe coming out of the window above?