The Warren Commission Sham

[Dan O'meara]

At the risk of my sanity, I have forced myself to read this entire thread.

In effectively demolishing everything you say, Charles has pointed out that they weren't omitted and that the WC attempted to resolve the conflict in the testimony. The chicken-bone issue simply didn't get the attention you think it deserved in the Warren Report, and I assume this is because the WC regarded the testimony as irreconcilable and the issue as trivial.

It isn't 100% clear to me that this is what was being said. Even if it were, why would that inevitably be of great significance?

An assassination accomplice eating chicken? Pretty casual assassination, eh? WHY ON EARTH would this be considered evidence of an accomplice?

There is no reason to think he was. You are simply making every conceivable conspiracy insinuation and inference out of a piece of chicken of uncertain location and provenance. This is Conspiracy Thinking run amuck.
During the relevant time period, I believe he was in the SN. Whether a piece of chicken was there as well, either before, after or during his occupancy, is not known and never will be.

No, not nothing. Just nothing particularly relevant or interesting.

P.S. -

You do realize that Williams originally said that he left the 6th floor, went down and got his lunch and then went up to the 5th floor (with his lunch) to watch the motorcade? Photographer Tom Alyea was ADAMANT that the lunch remains were found on the 5th floor, collected as evidence, and taken to the 6th floor. Williams thereafter changed his story to say he had eaten on the 6th floor. For all I know, he was simply confused. Anyway, I think you're trying to make way too much of an issue over something about which there is way too much uncertainty.

Here's Alyea:

Police officers who claim they were on the 6th floor when the assassin's window was found have reported that they saw chicken bones at or near the site. One officer reported that he saw chicken bones on the floor near the location. Another said he saw chicken bones on the barricade boxes, while another reported that he saw chicken bones on the box which was laying across the window sill. Some of these officers have given testimony as to the location of the shell casings. Their testimony differs and none of it is true. I have no idea why they are clinging to these statements. They must have a reason. Perhaps it is because they put it in a report and they must stick to it.

One officer stated that he found the assassin's location at the 6th floor window. He went on to say that as he and his fellow officers were leaving the building, he passed Captain Fritz coming in. He said he stopped briefly to tell Captain Fritz that he had found the assassin's lair at the 6th floor window. This seems highly unlikely because Captain Fritz joined us on the 5th floor and aided in the search. The chances are great that this, or these officers heard the report, that stemmed from WFAA-TV's incorrect announcement that the chicken bones were found on the 6th floor. This officer or officers perhaps used this information to formulate their presence at the scene. There were no chicken bones found on the 6th floor. We covered every inch of it and I filmed everything that could possibly be suspected as evidence. There definitely were no chicken bones on or near the barricade or boxes at the window. I shot close-up shots of the entire area.

Here's the Tom Alyea page at Bart Kamp's excellent site: http://www.prayer-man.com/camera/tom-alyea/

I think you're trying to make way too much of an issue over something about which there is way too much uncertainty.

There is no uncertainty.
All six officers specifically state that the lunch remains were discovered in the southeast corner.
At least three of them state that the remains were on top of the boxes that formed the SN.
There is zero uncertainty as to where the lunch remains were originally found.
I understand why you want the testimony of these officers to go away. It's the same reason the WC wanted it to go away.

Am I overstating the importance of discovering Bonnie Ray's lunch remains on the Sniper's Nest?
I don't think so.
But I understand why you do.

[Lance Payette]

I think you're trying to make way too much of an issue over something about which there is way too much uncertainty.

There is no uncertainty.
All six officers specifically state that the lunch remains were discovered in the southeast corner.
At least three of them state that the remains were on top of the boxes that formed the SN.
There is zero uncertainty as to where the lunch remains were originally found.
I understand why you want the testimony of these officers to go away. It's the same reason the WC wanted it to go away.

Am I overstating the importance of discovering Bonnie Ray's lunch remains on the Sniper's Nest?
I don't think so.
But I understand why you do.

Good Lord, you are in the grip of 110-degree Conspiracy Fever. Did you even read Alyea's statement? He was one of the first people on the 6th floor and had absolutely no agenda. Consistent with BRW's first statement, Alyea places the chicken and bottle on the 5th floor. And you say there is ZERO UNCERTAINTY??? Let's increase the Conspiracy Fever to 115. Your six officers' statements aren't even consistent. Alyea's statement is entirely plausible. It's also entirely plausible that BRW, a minimum-wage Black guy and surely not the sharpest tool in the shed, might become confused or even intimidated into changing his story to fit the 6th floor narrative - but so what?

And now we have Jake suggesting BRW was the alternative patsy if "the Oswald scenario" fell through. What on earth would this even MEAN??? We will assign Jake a Conspiracy Fever of, oh, we'll say 142.9.

Are you folks serious? Are you so devoid of rationality (well, Conspiracy Fever does have that effect) that you really can't see that you're spouting nonsense of the first magnitude??? BTW, what happened to the "simple" LBJ-Byrd-Cason-Shelley conspiracy - lost interest in THAT pretty fast, eh? So now we're on to Chicken Bone Bonnie, International Man of Mystery and Assassination Accomplice. 

[John Mytton]

I always thought it was a little strange that Williams would go to the 6th floor to watch the parade with his mates but not check all the windows, because after all, he went directly to the corner window on the floor directly below, now there is the possibility that he shouted out and after hearing no response simply plonked himself down in the middle of the floor and waited there?
And there is the early slightly conflicting affidavits and FBI reports like where Norman on the 4th of Dec says "About 12:15 P.M. on this same date, after I had eaten my lunch, I went to the fifth floor of the building to watch the parade of the President pass the building. Bonnie Ray Williams and James Jarman, who also worked at this building went with me.", could Norman be covering for Williams who actually went to the sniper's nest saw Oswald, and then had his lunch while standing behind Oswald then after hearing his mates finally arrive on the floor below, left and left his lunch remains on top of the surrounding boxes? I can perfectly understand why Williams would not want to get involved!

This following exchange with Williams during his testimony, when Williams is explaining what he could see from his position and Ford suddenly interjects with the "trouble with the law" comment, kind of tells me that the WC was sort of sus with the entire Williams scenario and perhaps had a similar idea as I just explained?

Mr. DULLES. How much of the room could you see as you finished your lunch there? Was your view obstructed by boxes of books, or could you see a good bit of the sixth floor?
Mr. WILLIAMS. Well, at the time I couldn't see too much of the sixth floor, because the books at the time were stacked so high. I could see only in the path that I was standing--as I remember, I could not possibly see anything to the east side of the building. But just one aisle, the aisle I was standing in I could see just about to the west side of the building. So far as seeing to the east and behind me, I could only see down the aisle behind me and the aisle to the west of me.
Representative FORD.Have you ever had any trouble with the law at all?
Mr. WILLIAMS. No, sir.
Representative FORD.No difficulty as far as the law is concerned?
Mr. WILLIAMS. I have never been inside of a courthouse before.

Rowland who isn't the best eyewitness says he saw an (elderly)negro in the window marked with an "A"?

Mr. SPECTER - Will you describe with as much particularity as you can what that man looked like?
Mr. ROWLAND - It seemed to me an elderly Negro, that is about all. I didn't pay very much attention to him.

Mr. SPECTER - Over how long a time span did you observe the Negro man to be in the window marked "A"?
Mr. ROWLAND - He was there before I noticed the man with the rifle and approximately 12:30 or when the motorcade was at Main and Ervay he was gone when I looked back and I had looked up there about 30 seconds before or a minute before.



EDIT An early SS report from the first week in December, on Jarman where he says he went with Williams and Norman to the fifth floor.

 

EDIT 2 It seems that Williams was telling the same story that he went initially to the 6th floor as early as the day after.



JohnM

[Lance Payette]

As we can see from this thread, there is NO UNCERTAINTY.  Let's all just keep repeating that ("No uncertainty, there is no uncertainty ...") until we start to believe it.

[Richard Smith]

Someone suspects fowl play!  Why did the WC decline to interview Colonel Sanders (no doubt a white supremist and KGB agent) to rule him out as the assassin? What about the Hamburglar? He looks suspicious. So many questions, but never the answers.

[Tom Graves]

Someone suspects fowl play!  Why did the WC decline to interview Colonel Sanders (no doubt a white supremist and KGB agent) to rule him out as the assassin? What about the Hamburglar? He looks suspicious. So many questions, but never the answers.

Anyone who supports The Traitorous Orange Bird is, at the very least, an unwitting KGB* agent.

*Today's SVR and FSB

[David Von Pein]

BONNIE RAY WILLIAMS AND THE CHICKEN BONES....

https://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2025/03/chicken-bones.html