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Offline Zeon Mason

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If Dorothy Garner followed Adams and Stiles at 30 secs post shots when  they left the 4th floor office  then the only way  that the 6th floor shooter at the SE window of TSBD could get past Garner unseen would  be to have an accomplice take the shooter down using the East elevator.

Accomplice operates  elevator To the 2nd floor. The shooter exits into storage room and accomplice returns east elevator to the 5th floor by 75 sec post shots.

The best accomplice would be another TSBD employee which avoids suspicion being a stranger in the building.

What other TSBD employees had no alibi at the time of the shooting?

1.Geneva Hines on the 2nd floor
2.Eddie Piper 1st floor
3.Jack Dougherty 5th and 6th floor

The combo of Oswald as shooter and Dougherty as accomplice would be an easy way to get  Oswald to the 2nd floor lunchroom by 55 sec post shots, and Dougherty returning east elevator to the 5th floor by 75 sec post shots.

This is probably the most minimal of scenarios for an “Oswald had help “ conspiracy theory.

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Online Tom Graves

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If Dorothy Garner followed Adams and Stiles [sic] at 30 secs post shots when they left the 4th floor office . . .

Followed them where?

To the Roach Coach lunch truck parked outside?

Offline Zeon Mason

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Garner claimed she followed behind Adam’s and Stiles “almost immediately” as they left the 4th floor office. But she clarified in her interview with Barry Ernest that she did not actually see them go down the stars (as per her original statement in the Belin memo,) but that she did HEAR them when she walked over to the staircase  and stood looking out the west window nearest the staircase.

To be able to hear 2 girls on the stairs , heels clacking , voices , or whatever noise it was that Garner heard that made her think it was more than just 1 person on the stairs, means that Garner most likely exited the office approx. 30 sec post shots , walked the next 60 ft in about 10 secs and thus was near the staircase by 40 sec post shots.

To make it work with Oswald as a shooter who wipes prints off the rifle and hides it in the boxes requires about 40 secs total before he could start down the staircase, and eith the fastest probable speed of running down stairs skipping 3 steps at a time and crossing 20 ft floor landing =10sec/floor, Oswald would not be going down the 4th floor stair until 60 sec post shots.

So unless there is any other statement that Garner made that suggests she thought that at least 65 secs elapsed before she exited  the office , then the only way Oswald could have gotten past her unseen would be to take the east elevator.

Tom, I hope  you will pardon my not so precise English grammar and offer an opinion of how probable it is that Garner would describe  a 65 secs span of time as “almost immediately”.

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Online Tom Graves

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Tom, I hope you will pardon my not so precise English grammar . . .

I'm trying.

Good Lord, I'm trying.

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. . . and offer an opinion of how probable it is that Garner would describe a 65 secs [sic] span of time as “almost immediately”.

I don't know if your premises are correct, but in answer to your question I would say, "Works for me!"

Regarding your statement that Garner must have been near the staircase 40 seconds after the last shot, does your estimate take into consideration the fact she spoke for a while with Adams and Styles in her office (iirc)?

What makes you think Oswald wiped his prints off his short-rifle given the fact that the wood was so rough that it wouldn't "take" a print and given the fact that his prints were found on the trigger guard?
« Last Edit: March 26, 2025, 01:41:09 AM by Tom Graves »

Offline Joe Elliott

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Question: Why were the social security numbers, some of them for people still alive, released in these latest JFK files released by Trump?

Question: Is it possible that the social security number of everyone involved in the research of the JFK assassination will someday be released by Trump?

Question: Could some of us who post on this forum have their social security numbers published in order to release all information that may be related to the JFK assassination?

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Online Tom Graves

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Question: Why were the social security numbers, some of them for people still alive, released in these latest JFK files released by Trump?

Question: Is it possible that the social security number of everyone involved in the research of the JFK assassination will someday be released by Trump?

Question: Could some of us who post on this forum have their social security numbers published in order to release all information that may be related to the JFK assassination?

Question: Have you always been paranoiac?

Offline Joe Elliott

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Question: Have you always been paranoiac?

I think the people who had their social security numbers published are not paranoid but are really pissed off.

Question: Why did Trump have the social security numbers of these people released to the public?

Offline Joe Elliott

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So, when is Trump going to release the Epstein files? I don't need the social security numbers but the rest of the information would be good to have.

Question: What is Trump trying to hide?

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