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Online Royell Storing

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Well not really, but I do enjoy some of his movies like The Doors, Platoon which was good to see only once and even JFK which even though is full of misinformation, is well made with a great John Williams soundtrack.

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   James Horner is my preference by far. A great tragedy when he died crashing his own airplane.

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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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If the media simply reports that there is nothing much new in the files, no one is going to read their stories.  There is also an unfortunate desire on the right to relate the JFK assassination to the "deep state" efforts against Trump.  As in they want the CIA and others to have conspired to kill JFK as an example that the "deep state" is out to get presidents.   I have no doubt that there was a concerted effort to undermine the Trump administration during his first term.  That has no relevance to whether there was a conspiracy involving the highest levels of the government to assassinate JFK.  Much of what they are reporting appears to be a product of ignorance.  Some of the reports that I saw focused on the fact that the FBI/CIA had been tracking or were "aware" of Oswald before the assassination as though this were new and significant information.  Oswald had defected to the USSR and was a known political nut.  Of course the FBI/CIA were interested in him for that reason.  That is not evidence, however, that they were conspiring with or grooming him for the assassination.
I would think that these alleged powerful conspirators in the "deep state" would try a sort of lawfare against JFK before shooting him in broad daylight in the middle of the street with 400 people watching? Does that make sense? Even more illogical then have to cover all of that up for half a century. Perhaps try lawfare first: That is leak damaging information on JFK (mistresses, health, make it up) to favored media people. Or blackmail him (recall the letter sent by the FBI to King?). Something easier. Doesn't that make sense?

Clearly there were some - some - in the FBI and elsewhere who used lawfare to try and get Trump. I think they thought they had legitimate reasons. Wouldn't they, in this imaginary situation with JFK, try that first? But instead they went through this absurd plan? Were they idiots?
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Well not really, but I do enjoy some of his movies like The Doors, Platoon which was good to see only once and even JFK which even though is full of misinformation, is well made with a great John Williams soundtrack.

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Stone says the Cold War was caused by the West, by US policies and that if we had elected Henry Wallace in 1948 it never would have happened. Poor Joe Stalin never had a chance at peace. I won't even mention the absurdities he says in defense of Putin.

No self-respecting conservative would go within a thousand miles of such nonsense. Stone is a political crackpot. This is another example of how the kook Left and kook Right merge, it's the horseshoe theory of politics. The MAGA Right is much less bad than the woke Left but they are still filled with people (like the bizarro Tucker Carlson) who believe simply foolish things. Like Stone's foolishness.
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I would think that these alleged powerful conspirators in the "deep state" would try a sort of lawfare against JFK before shooting him in broad daylight in the middle of the street with 400 people watching? Does that make sense? Even more illogical then have to cover all of that up for half a century. Perhaps try lawfare first: That is leak damaging information on JFK (mistresses, health, make it up) to favored media people. Or blackmail him (recall the letter sent by the FBI to King?). Something easier. Doesn't that make sense?

Clearly there were some - some - in the FBI and elsewhere who used lawfare to try and get Trump. I think they thought they had legitimate reasons. Wouldn't they, in this imaginary situation with JFK, try that first? But instead they went through this absurd plan? Were they idiots?

   With JFK's brother Bobby running the DOJ, it would have been extremely difficult to even begin using a 1963 Version of "lawfare". The JFK womanizing stuff was generally known back then. I was there, I heard of it 1st hand.

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It's fascinating (like viewing a car accident sort of way) watching the conspiracy Left and conspiracy Right get together on this. It's obvious they loathe one another but their conspiracy crusade forces them to join up, make peace, makes them hold their noses (watch Jefferson Morley on Tucker Carlson or Glenn Beck; he really looks like he wants to be elsewhere). When the MAGA Right says "They got JFK like they tried to get Trump" the conspiracy Left sort of looks the other way, pretends they didn't hear it. JFK, for them, is a saint; he was going to "end" the Cold War and expose the crimes of the "deep state" and CIA. But Trump is the anti-christ, a fascist and there's no way they are going to defend him.

Dear Steven,

That's just what the KGB* was aiming for by creating, promulgating and encouraging "The CIA Did It!" disinformation for sixty-plus years.

*Today's SVR and FSB

-- Tom
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Offline Joe Knapp

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Are there websites where you can search the files for keywords and such? Seems like a lot to just wade through.

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Are there websites where you can search the files for keywords and such? Seems like a lot to just wade through.

I don't think that there are any yet, they will need to use OCR on each page and then catalogue them all which I can't see happening for some time. I have trouble reading some pages so who knows what kind of accuracy we can expect when using OCR?
But it seems like some CT's who have a lot of time on their hands are searching for anything to bolster their case so your best bet is to see what juicy stuff they find and then check their sources, because the rabid CT's are known to bend the truth!

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The Washington Post is reporting some interesting stuff today, but I guess they are slogging through it.

CIA secrets and exposed agents: See unredacted details from the JFK files
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2025/jfk-files-assassination-documents

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