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Online John Mytton

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Re: David Harold Byrd
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2025, 01:27:11 PM »
FWIW, Buell Frazier did tell the WC that Oswald would become chatty on their rides when talking about his kids.

Mr. BALL - On the way back and forth did you talk very much to each other?
Mr. FRAZIER - No. sir: not very much. He is. probably in your line of business you have probably seen a lot of guys who talk a lot and some don't and he was one of these types that just didn't talk. And I have seen, you know, I am not very old but I have seen a lot of guys in my time, just going to school, different boys and girls, some talk a lot and some don't, so I didn't think anything strange about that.
About the only time you could get anything out of the talking was about babies, you know, he had one and he was expecting another, that was one way he had him get that job because his wife was pregnant and I would always get something out of it when I asked him about the babies because it seemed he was very fond of children because when I asked him he chuckled and told me about what he was doing about the babies over the weekend and sometimes we would talk about the weather, and sometimes he would go to work and it would be cloudy in the morning and it would come out that afternoon after work, sometimes during the day and it would turn to be just one of the prettiest days you would want anywhere, and he would say some comment about that, but not very much.
He would say a few words and then he would cut off.



Mr. BALL - I see. Did he pay for any part of the trip, buy your gasoline?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; he didn't. I never did ask him. Because like I said I drove over there anyway and it doesn't take any more to drive one guy than it does to drive a carload.
Mr. BALL - Did he offer to pay any time?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; he never did.
Mr. BALL - At any time coming back after a weekend did you ever stop at a restaurant for breakfast?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; we never did.
Mr. BALL - Did you ever stop on the way home on Friday night and buy anything?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; stopped one time and bought some gas, I remember.
Mr. BALL - Did he pay for it?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; he didn't.
Mr. BALL - Did he offer to?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; he didn't.


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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: David Harold Byrd
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2025, 04:54:31 PM »

If I remember correctly, LHO had a similar reaction on Thursday evening at Ruth Paine’s house when they tried to engage him in conversation about the president coming to Dallas. Marina and Ruth indicated he didn’t seem to want to discuss it.
Yes. And Marina gives this account that occurred after the Walker shooting: the DeMohrenschildts were visiting - this is two days after the attempt - and all George wanted to talk about was the attempt on Walker's life. Oswald wasn't interested.

More confirmation bias by us Oswald haters <g>. After all, lots of people weren't interested in anything having to do with Walker. Was Oswald one of those "lots of people"? Proceed with hand waving and attempts to distract.

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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2025, 05:16:15 PM »
And here is DeMohrenschildt's account of the meeting. This is after Oswald showed him his rifle and he asked why he had one. Note as well Oswald told Walker he took the rifle to target shoot. This supports, to me, Marina's account about Oswald being reticent to discuss the shooting.

Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. He said "I go out and do target shooting. I like target shooting." So out of the pure, really jokingly I told him "Are you then the guy who took a pot shot at General Walker?" And he smiled to that, because just a few days before there was an attempt at General Walker's life, and it was very highly publicized in the papers, and I knew that Oswald disliked General Walker, you see. So I took a chance and I asked him this question, you see, and I can clearly see his face, you know.
He sort of shriveled, you see, when I asked this question.
Mr. JENNER. He became tense?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Became tense, you see, and didn't answer anything, smiled, you know, made a sarcastic--not sarcastic, made a peculiar face.
Mr. JENNER. The expression on his face?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. That is right, changed the expression on his face.
Mr. JENNER. You saw that your remark to him----
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Had an effect on him.
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Had an effect on him. But naturally he did not say yes or no, but that was it.

For some reason Oswald no longer wanted to talk about Walker.
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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2025, 11:53:13 PM »
Mrs. REID. I went into the office.
Mr. BELIN. You went into your office?
Mrs. REID. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. And then what did you do?
Mrs. REID. Well, I kept walking and I looked up and Oswald was coming in the back door of the office. I met him by the time I passed my desk several
feet and I told him, I said, “Oh, the President has been shot, but maybe they didn’t hit him.” He mumbled something to me, I kept walking, he did, too.

There ya go: Oswald didn't discuss baseball games, the weather ... or the President being shot. They're all fungible, right? He wasn't even interested when he stepped outside into utter chaos, heard the news on the bus, or rushed past Earlene Roberts watching the news coverage on TV. He was in a really big hurry to get his pistol and go see a movie. Just Oswald being Oswald - ya think?

Come on, you gotta do better than that.

Like you have any evidence he "got his pistol".

And how do you know he even heard Mrs. Reid?  "Common sense", again?  Maybe what he "mumbled" was "Sorry, I didn't catch that".

Now the argument goes like this:

In my fevered imagination, Oswald should have been interested in chatting everybody up about the president's motorcade being shot at.  He wasn't.  Therefore he killed Kennedy.

At some point you have to have some actual evidence.

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Re: David Harold Byrd
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2025, 11:58:17 PM »
Yes. And Marina gives this account that occurred after the Walker shooting: the DeMohrenschildts were visiting - this is two days after the attempt - and all George wanted to talk about was the attempt on Walker's life. Oswald wasn't interested.

Is this supposed to be evidence of something?

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« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2025, 12:18:15 AM »
If it’s LBJ, then the shooter could have Malcolm
Wallace. Roger Stone claims there were more than one print of Wallace found but I’ve only read of one print that Nathan Darby examined and found 34 points that match Wallace.

The 34 point match is said to be negated by some other experts who found some points that do not match. IDK what’s the truth here.

There’s a sketch of what maybe one witness described the shooter as a man wearing glasses, but he certainly was NOT wearing the glasses when he was shooting otherwise Euins would have surely seen that detail.

Was Wallace nearsighted or farsighted? Does it matter that much if he was able to focus the scope? So he might have been wearing the glasses as he arranged the boxes and was seen by one witness. Then he took off the glasses to begin shooting using the scope.

How he got out of the TSBD from the 6th floor is even more difficult than getting Oswafd past Dorothy Garner.

But was it really Jack Dougherty on that west elevator that was going down AS  Baker and Truly were ascending the stairs?

THAT elevator went from 5th floor all the way down to the 1st floor. It’s unconfirmed by Eddie Piper that Jack Dougherty was on that elevator when it got to the 1st floor.

Offline Lance Payette

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Re: David Harold Byrd
« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2025, 12:26:21 AM »
Like you have any evidence he "got his pistol".-

"I don't know why you are treating me like this. The only thing I have done is carry a pistol into a movie."
"I fought back there, but I know I wasn't supposed to be carrying a gun."
"All I did was carry a gun."
"I carried a pistol with me to the movie because I felt like it, for no other reason."
"When I left the Texas School Book Depository, I went to my room, where I changed my trousers, got a pistol, and went to a picture show. You know how boys do when they have a gun, they carry it."

Nah, no evidence. Those quotes are all fake. In fact, I'm not sure we have any evidence Oswald ever existed. I personally think the WC invented him because they had no viable suspect at all.

I don't know what your real-life job is or was, betting I'm willing to bet a substantial sum it didn't involve the law.



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