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On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 11 with Bill Brown
Martin Weidmann:
--- Quote from: John Mytton on February 10, 2025, 05:08:58 AM ---We know for a fact that Oswald touched the rifle;
1)The FBI took a lift of Oswald's rifle and Day's first day lift showed the exact same random defects. To have 1 random matching point could be a wild coincidence, but as more and more points were discovered the chances of discovering each additional point increases by an order of magnitude, therefore Oswald touched the rifle!
The FBI evidence.
And here I made an alternating GIF showing the exact matches and if you look closely there are other matches.
2) In 1993 Vincent Scalice examined original photographs of the trigger guard prints which were taken at different exposures and in comparing these photos Scalice discovered many more ridge matches than were required for a positive result.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=21_ZBkBpS0M
3) Also the absurd excuse that Oswald's dead palm touched the rifle can be equally discounted because dead men don't sweat and on the Sunday evening long before the FBI allegedly visited Oswald, the Dallas County Officials had already disclosed that a Palm print was discovered on the rifle.
JohnM
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1)The FBI took a lift of Oswald's rifle
No they didn't.
Day's first day lift showed the exact same random defects.
Day only produced an evidence card with a print on it when the evidence had to be turned over to the FBI, several days after the assassination.
2) In 1993 Vincent Scalice examined original photographs of the trigger guard prints which were taken at different exposures and in comparing these photos Scalice discovered many more ridge matches than were required for a positive result.
And how do we know for sure that Vincent Scalice was given "original photographs of the trigger guard prints"? Or, for that matter, how did he obtain the prints of Oswald he compared them with?
3) Also the absurd excuse that Oswald's dead palm touched the rifle
Who claimed that it did?
John Mytton:
--- Quote from: Martin Weidmann on February 10, 2025, 05:36:00 AM ---1)The FBI took a lift of Oswald's rifle
No they didn't.
Day's first day lift showed the exact same random defects.
Day only produced an evidence card with a print on it when the evidence had to be turned over to the FBI, several days after the assassination.
2) In 1993 Vincent Scalice examined original photographs of the trigger guard prints which were taken at different exposures and in comparing these photos Scalice discovered many more ridge matches than were required for a positive result.
And how do we know for sure that Vincent Scalice was given "original photographs of the trigger guard prints"? Or, for that matter, how did he obtain the prints of Oswald he compared them with?
3) Also the absurd excuse that Oswald's dead palm touched the rifle
Who claimed that it did?
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So the FBI manufactured their lift of the rifle?
So Day manufactured the date and his lift of the rifle?
So Scalice didn't have original photographs of Oswald's rifle and used manufactured photo's?
Hahahahahaha!
--- Quote from: Martin Weidmann on February 10, 2025, 02:14:09 AM ---
Otherwise you won't accept it because "it's possible" it was manufactured.
What piece of evidence did I claim was manufactured? Be precise.... just show me a link to one of my posts or shut up!
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BTW Martin, don't ever stop being you, because from just 1 post you again prove that you are just so damn entertaining! :D
JohnM
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Martin Weidmann on February 10, 2025, 04:58:15 AM ---Thank you for demonstrating so clearly that you can not provide a shred of conclusive evidence of Oswald's guilt.
You are just a waste of time....
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Hundreds of thousands?
Holy Xxxx!
Rhymes with muck.
Martin Weidmann:
--- Quote from: John Mytton on February 10, 2025, 05:54:27 AM ---So the FBI manufactured their lift of the rifle?
So Day manufactured the date and his lift of the rifle?
So Scalice didn't have original photographs of Oswald's rifle and used manufactured photo's?
Hahahahahaha!
BTW Martin, don't ever stop being you, because from just 1 post you again prove that you are just so damn entertaining! :D
JohnM
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So the FBI manufactured their lift of the rifle?
What lift?
So Day manufactured the date and his lift of the rifle?
I don't know what Day did or did not do. All I know is that IMO his story lacks credibility.
The mere fact that he claims to have left a crucial piece of evidence in his drawer for nearly a week is beyond belief.
But I can't determine if it was sheer incompetence or if there was something else going on.
So Scalice didn't have original photographs of Oswald's rifle and used manufactured photo's?
Did I say that? All I did was ask a question which you seem to be unable to answer.
The question is justified because all the original evidence was and still is locked away at the National Archives.
So, where did those photos and a set of finger prints come from?
Oops.. I did it again. What am I thinking to ask yet another question John Mytton can't or won't answer?
I feel sorry for you, John. It's too bad that you can't distinguish between a simple question being asked and making claims.
Your inability to answer any of my questions is duly noted. So, keep on making dubious claims that you can not back up with evidence!
Btw, did you miss the part in the video where they said that a former high ranking FBI expert found the prints not clear enough to make any identification?
Which justifies the question why you would accept at face value what Scalise said, not under oath, mind you, but in a documentary?
Oops, there I go again asking questions that John will never answer..... Go figure!
John Iacoletti:
--- Quote from: Tom Mahon on February 10, 2025, 02:59:03 AM ---Did the short-rifle have fibers on it that matched the fibers of the blanket, or were those fabricated / planted, too?
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No, it did not.
Try again.
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