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On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 11 with Bill Brown

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Tom Graves:

--- Quote ---IMO Marina told so many lies that anything she said should have been disregarded in the first place, but that would have destroyed the case against Oswald.

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Given the fact that Oswald was seen shooting at JFK by Howard Brennan, that he left the TSBD without permission within 3 minutes of the shooting, that his prints were found on two (or was it three?) boxes in the Sniper's Nest and on the paper bag and on his short-rifle, etc. etc., how would the case against the sharpshooting, psychologically disturbed, self-described Marxist have been destroyed if everything his little KGB-agent wife said about him and his short-rifle, etc., had been disregarded?

Martin Weidmann:

--- Quote from: Tom Mahon on February 10, 2025, 03:37:28 AM ---Wasn't Oswald's palm print found on the short-rifle by the DPD (or was it planted there by the bad guys who lifted off of Oswald's corpse at the morgue?), and weren't some fingerprints detected by the DPD on the trigger guard area, photographed by the DPD, and later determined by a fingerprint expert from said photographs to be Oswald's?

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Wasn't Oswald's palm print found on the short-rifle by the DPD

Was it?

There was a print on an evidence card which Lt Day claimed to have taken from the rifle on 11/22/63, but he didn't produce that card until a week later.

Can you imagine a solid reason for the DPD to hold back evidence that ties Oswald to the rifle for a week?

Besides, when the FBI examined the rifle they could not find any trace of a print, so how did Day manage to remove that print 100% without a trace?

and weren't some fingerprints detected by the DPD on the trigger guard area, photographed by the DPD, and later determined by a fingerprint expert from said photographs to be Oswald's?

I have no idea. I am aware of some fingerprint expert who, years after the assassination, was given some photos of prints allegedly taken from the rifle and some prints allegedly taken from Oswald who claimed there was a match.
What I am not aware of is a formal investigation or testimony by an expert under oath.

What seems to be a common thread in this entire investigation is that somebody is giving an expert or a witness some document or photo claiming to be authentic and asking for a comparision with some other piece of evidence that is claimed to be authentic.

Tom Graves:

--- Quote from: Martin Weidmann on February 10, 2025, 03:55:48 AM ---Wasn't Oswald's palm print found on the short-rifle by the DPD?

Was it?

There was a print on an evidence card which Lt Day claimed to have taken from the rifle on 11/22/63, but he didn't produce that card until a week later.

Can you imagine a solid reason for the DPD to hold back evidence that ties Oswald to the rifle for a week?

Besides, when the FBI examined the rifle they could not find any trace of a print, so how did Day manage to remove that print 100% without a trace?

and weren't some fingerprints detected by the DPD on the trigger guard area, photographed by the DPD, and later determined by a fingerprint expert from said photographs to be Oswald's?

I have no idea. I am aware of some fingerprint expert who, years after the assassination, was given some photos of prints allegedly taken from the rifle and some prints allegedly taken from Oswald who claimed there was a match.
What I am not aware of is a formal investigation or testimony by an expert under oath.

What seems to be a common thread in this entire investigation is that somebody is giving an expert or a witness some document or photo claiming to be authentic and asking for a comparision with some other piece of evidence that is claimed to be authentic.

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Once again, how many bad guys do you figure were involved, altogether, in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, and the all-important cover up?

Couple hundred?

Thousands?

Martin Weidmann:

--- Quote from: Tom Mahon on February 10, 2025, 03:50:36 AM ---Given the fact that Oswald was seen shooting at JFK by Howard Brennan, that he left the TSBD without permission within 3 minutes of the shooting, that his prints were found on two (or was it three?) boxes in the Sniper's Nest and on the paper bag and on his short-rifle, etc. etc., how would the case against the sharpshooting, psychologically disturbed, self-described Marxist have been destroyed if everything his little KGB-agent wife said about him and his short-rifle, etc., had been disregarded?

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Given the fact that Oswald was seen shooting at JFK by Howard Brennan,

Was he?

that he left the TSBD without permission within 3 minutes of the shooting

Did somebody see him leave the TSBD within 3 minutes of the shooting? If so, name that that person!

that his prints were found on two (or was it three?) boxes in the Sniper's Nest

The man worked on that floor and part of his job was to get books out of boxes..... Is this the best you've got?

and on the paper bag

On what paper bag? The one the WC claimed was in the sniper's nest, but couldn't provide an in situ photograph for? And the one Buell Frazier was shown on Friday evening and said it wasn't the one Oswald had carried to the TSBD?

how would the case against the sharpshooting, psychologically disturbed, self-described Marxist have been destroyed if everything his little KGB-agent wife said about him and his short-rifle, etc., had been disregarded?   

If you have to ask this question, it only shows how little you understand about this case and how much you are out of your league.

Martin Weidmann:

--- Quote from: Tom Mahon on February 10, 2025, 04:04:44 AM ---Once again, how many bad guys do you figure were involved, altogether, in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, and the all-important cover up?

Couple hundred?

Thousands?

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Stop showing your desperation and start providing conclusive evidence that demonstrates Oswald's guilt.

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