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Online John Corbett

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Re: The Dealey Plaza Storm Drain Sewer Theory 1992
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2026, 11:53:47 PM »
    You mention that Maher just can Not buy into the SBT. Think about that. Think about Knott Labs using forensic technology to determine that the SBT "Is Impossible". Knott Lab Technology that is used as evidence in courtrooms across the USA.

Maher doesn't buy the SBT because he bought into the phony premise that JBC was seated directly in front of JFK, at the same height, and that JBC was facing straight ahead when the bullet struck. None of those are accurate yet that is how Costner demonstrated it in Ollie's silly Bahookie movie. Based on his comments, Maher seems to have also bought into the myth that JBC reacted to being shot later than JFK did. Also false.

Dale Myers did the same kind of computer generated 3D reconstruction of Dealey Plaza and showed the geometry of the SBT works perfectly. A bullet exiting JFK's throat couldn't have missed JBC's back. I've seen Dale Myers simulations and they are quite convincing. Knott Lab apparently wants us to just take their word for it.

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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2026, 01:14:00 AM »
Maher doesn't buy the SBT because he bought into the phony premise that JBC was seated directly in front of JFK, at the same height, and that JBC was facing straight ahead when the bullet struck. None of those are accurate yet that is how Costner demonstrated it in Ollie's silly Bahookie movie. Based on his comments, Maher seems to have also bought into the myth that JBC reacted to being shot later than JFK did. Also false.

Dale Myers did the same kind of computer generated 3D reconstruction of Dealey Plaza and showed the geometry of the SBT works perfectly. A bullet exiting JFK's throat couldn't have missed JBC's back. I've seen Dale Myers simulations and they are quite convincing. Knott Lab apparently wants us to just take their word for it.

   Maher is a very thorough individual. Your selling him short. You do Not know what he has done or not done. 
   Who is Dale Myers and what courts have admitted his ballistic evidence?

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« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2026, 01:54:52 PM »
   Maher is a very thorough individual. Your selling him short. You do Not know what he has done or not done.


I can only judge Maher's views on the JFKA based on his comments. His skepticism about the SBT parrots the objections to it that were presented in Oliver Stone's fictitious movie. It's possible he could have got his ideas from other sources which have raised the same invalid objections and which are also based on the false premises that JBC was directly in front of JFK, at the same height, and facing straight ahead and also that JBC reacted to being shot at a different time than JFK.
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Who is Dale Myers and what courts have admitted his ballistic evidence?

To the best of my knowledge, there has never been a court case where Myers' 3D virtual recreation of the shooting would be relevant. The same could be said of the Knott Lab reconstruction of the shooting. Do you know of such a case?

For what it's worth, Dale Myers did win an Emmy for his work on ABC's documentary which aired around the 40th anniversary of the JFKA.
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Re: The Dealey Plaza Storm Drain Sewer Theory 1992
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2026, 09:24:43 PM »


I can only judge Maher's views on the JFKA based on his comments. His skepticism about the SBT parrots the objections to it that were presented in Oliver Stone's fictitious movie. It's possible he could have got his ideas from other sources which have raised the same invalid objections and which are also based on the false premises that JBC was directly in front of JFK, at the same height, and facing straight ahead and also that JBC reacted to being shot at a different time than JFK.
To the best of my knowledge, there has never been a court case where Myers' 3D virtual recreation of the shooting would be relevant. The same could be said of the Knott Lab reconstruction of the shooting. Do you know of such a case?

For what it's worth, Dale Myers did win an Emmy for his work on ABC's documentary which aired around the 40th anniversary of the JFKA.

    Knott Labs forensic technology traces bullet trajectories. Get the connection to the SBT? 

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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2026, 11:18:29 PM »
    Knott Labs forensic technology traces bullet trajectories. Get the connection to the SBT?

Ditto for Dale Myers.

Myers has put his animations on display for all to judge. I have seen the Knott Lab website which contains a link to their YouTube animation:

https://knottlab.com/cases/knott-lab-presents-digital-reconstruction-and-findings-on-the-assassination-of-president-john-f-kennedy/

The website states they started by taking a laser scan of Dealey Plaza. So far, so good. That's what Myers did too. Then they explained the used just 25 photos and 7 frames of the Z-film to sync their animation. That is a fraction of what Myers did. Then we get to the animation on YouTube:


Compared to Myers' animation, its primitive. It looks like they were using 1980s technology. There is very little actual animation. Mostly it moves the perspective around and shows still shots from various angles. Most interesting were their various looks at the trajectory through JFK into JBC beginning the 1:38 mark. For starters they have JBC facing almost straight ahead which is not how he was aligned when the bullet struck. Then they slide him to the left. At 1:38 they show the bullet striking the left side of JBC's back. At 1:40, they show the bullet striking JBC where it actually did hit him. The continue sliding JBC leftward so at 1:42, it appears the bullet would have struck the inside of his right arm and at 1:44 it appears to strike him on the outside of his arm. Because they show this view from the side as opposed to either directly behind the limo or better yet and overhead view, we can't see where JBC is actually aligned in relation to JFK. However, since we know where the bullet actually struck JBC, that should tell them that is where he was positioned when the bullet struck. We know the bullet did not strike JBC on the left side of his back and we know it did not strike him in his right arm so that should eliminate those two as possible positions JBC could have been in at the time the two men were shot.

What I found to be most telling was this statement near the bottom of their webpage:

"This case is ongoing, but evidence strongly suggests there is more to the story in this historic event. Modern science refutes the Warren Commission’s findings on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy."

They seem to be saying their analysis is a work in progress. Sorry, but that hardly refutes either Myers work or the WCR. I would grade them with an incomplete for their efforts.

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« Reply #19 on: Today at 06:36:03 AM »
Ditto for Dale Myers.

Myers has put his animations on display for all to judge. I have seen the Knott Lab website which contains a link to their YouTube animation:

https://knottlab.com/cases/knott-lab-presents-digital-reconstruction-and-findings-on-the-assassination-of-president-john-f-kennedy/

The website states they started by taking a laser scan of Dealey Plaza. So far, so good. That's what Myers did too. Then they explained the used just 25 photos and 7 frames of the Z-film to sync their animation. That is a fraction of what Myers did. Then we get to the animation on YouTube:


Compared to Myers' animation, its primitive. It looks like they were using 1980s technology. There is very little actual animation. Mostly it moves the perspective around and shows still shots from various angles. Most interesting were their various looks at the trajectory through JFK into JBC beginning the 1:38 mark. For starters they have JBC facing almost straight ahead which is not how he was aligned when the bullet struck. Then they slide him to the left. At 1:38 they show the bullet striking the left side of JBC's back. At 1:40, they show the bullet striking JBC where it actually did hit him. The continue sliding JBC leftward so at 1:42, it appears the bullet would have struck the inside of his right arm and at 1:44 it appears to strike him on the outside of his arm. Because they show this view from the side as opposed to either directly behind the limo or better yet and overhead view, we can't see where JBC is actually aligned in relation to JFK. However, since we know where the bullet actually struck JBC, that should tell them that is where he was positioned when the bullet struck. We know the bullet did not strike JBC on the left side of his back and we know it did not strike him in his right arm so that should eliminate those two as possible positions JBC could have been in at the time the two men were shot.

What I found to be most telling was this statement near the bottom of their webpage:

"This case is ongoing, but evidence strongly suggests there is more to the story in this historic event. Modern science refutes the Warren Commission’s findings on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy."

They seem to be saying their analysis is a work in progress. Sorry, but that hardly refutes either Myers work or the WCR. I would grade them with an incomplete for their efforts.

    You continue to show you do Not Know what is going on with Knott Lab. Yes, Knott Lab is a "work in progress". They are working on finding out where the shots did come from. Step 1 was their finding that the SBT "Is Impossible".

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Re: The Dealey Plaza Storm Drain Sewer Theory 1992
« Reply #20 on: Today at 12:54:37 PM »
    You continue to show you do Not Know what is going on with Knott Lab. Yes, Knott Lab is a "work in progress". They are working on finding out where the shots did come from. Step 1 was their finding that the SBT "Is Impossible".

They know, or at least they should know, that a bullet struck JFK's upper back two inches to the right of his spine and exited from near the center of his throat. Their animation showed that bullet would have struck JBC somewhere depending on where they positioned him. They moved him from various positions from directly in front of JFK to well to the left of JFK. They showed the bullet striking JBC just to the left of his right armpit when JBC was slightly to the left of JFK, exactly where he was when the bullet hit. Since we know where JBC was actually struck, logic would dictate he must have been slightly to the left of JFK when the bullet struck him just to the left of his right armpit. Since they provide no explanation for why they determined the SBT was impossible, we are left to guess. My guess is their simulation validates the SBT. It does not refute it.