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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Cuba's Investigation into Mexico City: "It Was Oswald"
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2025, 08:13:29 PM »
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John M. Newman points in his 1995/2008 book, "Oswald and the CIA," that the woman who called the Soviet Consulate on S A T U R D A Y September 28, ostensibly from the Cuban Consulate, wasn't identified as Silvia Duran until "later" by the experienced transcriptionist, and that the "Oswald" with her who spoke to someone in the Soviet Consulate during that same phone call didn't seem to know what real-deal Oswald had done and said there earlier that day.
Here's the transcript of the call below. In my reading the caller knew what the real Oswald had done earlier.

Caller: "I was just now at your Embassy and they took my address."
Soviet at Embassy taking the Call: "I know that."

"I know that." So both the caller and the receiver knew about Oswald being there before. And according to the Soviet Embassy Officials (Nechiporenko et al.) they met the real Oswald not an imposter.

Then at the end of the call, the caller says "Well, I'll be there right away." According to Nechiporenko et al., Oswald appeared at the Embassy later that day. And as the transcript below shows, the woman caller was identified as Duran.

As to the address part, I have no idea what that was about.





Full document is here: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=5099#relPageId=2
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Re: Cuba's Investigation into Mexico City: "It Was Oswald"
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Re: Cuba's Investigation into Mexico City: "It Was Oswald"
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2025, 09:22:48 PM »
And to add more than we need to know on this: the Mexican intelligence service/government's investigation that concluded Oswald visited the Cuban consulate and Soviet Embassy can be read in the links below (they are in Spanish). Note that Mexican intelligence said that their copies of any phone intercepts of the Oswald calls (the CIA's LIENVOY program) were not retained. This is what the Mexican City CIA station said happened as well.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=239410
And here: https://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/download/Mexico-City-Archives-Oswald-File.pdf

My high school Spanish is weak but I can make out some of this. The carbon copy bleeding over makes it almost impossible to read some of it.  The transcripts of the two interrogations of Duran are provided (tough lady). English translation of her interrogation: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=4849#relPageId=2

At this point if you believe Oswald didn't go to to Mexico City then, gosh, you really have a bad case of conspiracy fever. Take two aspirins and get a nap. No, make that four aspirins.
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Re: Cuba's Investigation into Mexico City: "It Was Oswald"
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2025, 11:04:52 PM »

At this point if you believe Oswald didn't go to to Mexico City then, gosh, you really have a bad case of conspiracy fever. Take two aspirins and get a nap. No, make that four aspirins.


If you think you know everything there is to know about Oswald's visit to Mexico City, you're not being honest. It's impossible. There's far too much conflicting information and not enough hard evidence on what he did, what places he visited, who traveled with him, etc. 

I don't know what to believe about Mexico City and Oswald. It's very plausible that he was in fact there but I'm stuck on these facts:

- No photographic evidence.
- Possible impersonation attempt in phone calls to the Soviet embassy (the Russian language interpreters weren't sure if it was the real Oswald).
- Inconsistencies with the Sylvia Duran-Oswald timeline.
- The Silvia Odio detour.
- Witnesses gave descriptions of Oswald that didn't fit his physical description which indicates an in-person impersonator.
- There was a huge US intelligence coverup relating to Oswald's visit to Mexico City.
- No souvenirs. Not even a postcard from Mexico City.


Furthermore, if it was the real Oswald, the whole trip to Mexico City on a weekend to get a Visa makes no sense if that was his true intent.

If someone impersonated Oswald, perhaps it was part of the CIA/FBI efforts in 1963 to smear the Fair Play For Cuba Committee. COINTELPRO/CHAOS didn't officially begin until the late-60s but there were similar attempts to sabotage Leftist organizations in the early-60s. Oswald had no friends or associates who were communists or marxists. His persona via the letters to Leftwing organizations and public appearances in New Orleans has the appearance of being manufactured. Outside of his public persona at that time, there's no evidence that he was a devoted communist.

The more sinister possible reason to impersonate Oswald in Mexico City two months before JFK's assassination was to connect JFK's assassin to the Soviets and Cubans. No one could've predicted in advance that LBJ would suppress any potential ties between Oswald and a communist conspiracy in order to avoid war with Cuba or the USSR.
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Re: Cuba's Investigation into Mexico City: "It Was Oswald"
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