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Offline Fergus O'brien

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Re: Oswald Acted Alone Is The Most Popular Theory
« Reply #80 on: May 02, 2024, 07:59:43 PM »
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So, you have nothing to refute Dan’s claim but this nonsense about Myers?

The whole Knotts cartoon is a complete insult to reasoned intelligence. Dan’s assertion is that it still strikes JBC in the back no matter what they do. It even strikes JBC in the back at the exact same level as his wound from 11/22. Can you not understand this?

Knotts is not seasoned enough to understand the bullet can change trajectories when striking flesh. They have a separate bullet and a new trajectory represented because they do not understand this? They are supposedly testifying in criminal court cases? That must be comical to watch, except for whoever hired them.

The only person with this little of understanding of the assassination and would promote this tripe would be Royell Storing.

please feel free to tell me what part of what i said is nonsense , and then feel free to provide your proof that it is nonsense .

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Offline Fergus O'brien

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« Reply #81 on: May 02, 2024, 08:21:49 PM »

It is possible that a witness remembers certain aspect(s) of an event correctly but mis-remembers other aspect(s) of the same event. Human memories are not infallible, so this happens fairly regularly. I don’t mind saying that it happens to me fairly regularly. When other evidence exists that supports portion(s) of a witness’ account, that portion of their account becomes more believable. However, when other evidence exists that contradicts certain portions of that same witness’ account, that portion(s) of their account becomes less believable. Under these conditions, it is therefore entirely possible and proper that one witness’ account of an event can be both credible or not (depending of which portion of their account we are considering).

In the case of Earlene Roberts, I believe her allegations regarding the police car were investigated. However what they found tends to contradict that portion of her account. If it appears to you that that portion of her account was dismissed simply because it didn’t fit a certain scenario, then you have apparently been misled somewhere along the way.

i have not been misled . i am stating what LN in my experience have said about witnesses and how they deem them both credible and at the least lacking in credibility as and when it suits . remember Wes frazier and the long package ? . LN cite him as credible when he says Oswald carried a package . but when he says that package was around about 24 inches long not 36 inches ? . well a well known LN said that FRAZIER PROBABLY DOES NOT EVEN KNOW THAT 24 INCHES EQUALS TWO FEET . meaning he at best lacks intellect .regarding roberts LN have said she was near blind when it suits , yet they deem  her visual observations absolutely credible when it suits . and a well known LN has said she made up the police car story . that should make her unreliable and lacking in credibility , because any witness caught lying has a credibility problem , if a witness has lied one time they could have lied multiple times . yet LN still cite her .

you are correct the human memory is not infallible , but there is a big difference between an incorrect memory and a lie . when it comes to the police car LN are not saying Roberts memory was incorrect , they have said she made the whole thing up .

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Re: Oswald Acted Alone Is The Most Popular Theory
« Reply #82 on: May 02, 2024, 10:03:34 PM »
i have not been misled . i am stating what LN in my experience have said about witnesses and how they deem them both credible and at the least lacking in credibility as and when it suits . remember Wes frazier and the long package ? . LN cite him as credible when he says Oswald carried a package . but when he says that package was around about 24 inches long not 36 inches ? . well a well known LN said that FRAZIER PROBABLY DOES NOT EVEN KNOW THAT 24 INCHES EQUALS TWO FEET . meaning he at best lacks intellect .regarding roberts LN have said she was near blind when it suits , yet they deem  her visual observations absolutely credible when it suits . and a well known LN has said she made up the police car story . that should make her unreliable and lacking in credibility , because any witness caught lying has a credibility problem , if a witness has lied one time they could have lied multiple times . yet LN still cite her .

you are correct the human memory is not infallible , but there is a big difference between an incorrect memory and a lie . when it comes to the police car LN are not saying Roberts memory was incorrect , they have said she made the whole thing up .



I cannot control what other people think or say. If you want to discuss the case, then please stick with the elements of the case. If you just want to complain about your perceptions of what other people say, I am not interested. If you want to discuss what I have said, please address the specific statement.

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Re: Oswald Acted Alone Is The Most Popular Theory
« Reply #83 on: May 03, 2024, 02:15:32 AM »
please feel free to tell me what part of what i said is nonsense , and then feel free to provide your proof that it is nonsense .

Posting about Myers instead of the real topic about Knotts Lab is nonsense. The proof is your whole nonsense post.

How in anyway way does the Myers graphic have any relative relationship to Knotts Lab? If you lack an answer maybe don’t post anything let alone these replies.

Feel free to explain the relationship between the Myers and Knotts Lab and provide proof that Myers animation, in any manner, has an impact on understanding how Knotts Lab has a bullet striking JBC in the back in their animation, but instead they falsely state SBT is proven false by their work when in reality they proved it.

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« Reply #84 on: May 03, 2024, 01:37:09 PM »
remember Wes frazier and the long package ? . LN cite him as credible when he says Oswald carried a package . but when he says that package was around about 24 inches long not 36 inches ? . well a well known LN said that FRAZIER PROBABLY DOES NOT EVEN KNOW THAT 24 INCHES EQUALS TWO FEET . meaning he at best lacks intellect .regarding roberts LN have said she was near blind when it suits , yet they deem  her visual observations absolutely credible when it suits . and a well known LN has said she made up the police car story . that should make her unreliable and lacking in credibility , because any witness caught lying has a credibility problem , if a witness has lied one time they could have lied multiple times . yet LN still cite her .


This is a great example of CTer "logic."  Refusing to look to the totality of circumstances or applying any analysis to the situation.  Frazier - someone with no apparent reason to lie - tells the police that LHO carries a long package to work that morning that Oswald tells Frazier contains curtain rods.  Frazier also specifically asks Oswald about his lunch.  LHO confirms to him that he is not carrying his lunch that morning.   When asked about the bag after his arrest, LHO denies carrying any long bag along the lines described by Frazier.  He denies carrying any curtain rods.  In complete contradiction of what he told Frazier that morning, he then claims it was his lunch.   Did he carry his lunch to work that morning in a two-foot-long bag? And then for some unknown reason lie to Frazier about his lunch and the curtain rods.  That makes absolutely no sense.  Obviously, either Frazier or Oswald is lying about this situation.   Who has the greater incentive to lie?  A random witness or the person accused of murder?  What happened to Oswald's two-foot-long bag if it is not the longer bag found on the 6th floor? 

What is the most rational way to reconcile these conflicting accounts?   Obviously, that Frazier did not estimate the length of the bag correctly.   It was an estimate.  He repeated over and over that he didn't really take much notice of it.  What is the alternative?  That Frazier knowingly lied to implicate Oswald but he did so in way that doesn't really do that since he claimed the bag was too short to contain the rife?  LOL.  In addition to there being zero credible evidence that Frazier was involved in a plot to frame Oswald for the assassination, even if he were involved his "lie" would be to place a bag long enough to contain the rifle in Oswald's hands.  That would be the entire purpose of the lie.  He wouldn't insist it was too short for that purpose.  There is no way to reconcile Frazier's account in any other way except that Oswald carried a long bag that morning and he simply gave an estimate of its length that was slightly shorter than the actual bag.

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Re: Oswald Acted Alone Is The Most Popular Theory
« Reply #85 on: May 03, 2024, 05:13:11 PM »


I cannot control what other people think or say. If you want to discuss the case, then please stick with the elements of the case. If you just want to complain about your perceptions of what other people say, I am not interested. If you want to discuss what I have said, please address the specific statement.

i am not talking about MY PERCEPTIONS (as you call it ) what i said is what LN in my experience over many years have said , atleast one of them is right here on this forum . nor am i or do i complain about LN  .

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« Reply #86 on: May 03, 2024, 05:26:16 PM »
Where did you learn how to write like this? It's the worst grammar I've ever seen. It's painful on the eyes.



i would rather have the grammar you complain about than to be an obnoxious idiot . my reply was not even directed at you , yet you still felt a need to butt in and be idiotic .anyone with intellect , good research and the courage of their convictions would not lower them selves as you did .

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Offline Fergus O'brien

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Re: Oswald Acted Alone Is The Most Popular Theory
« Reply #87 on: May 03, 2024, 05:34:21 PM »
Posting about Myers instead of the real topic about Knotts Lab is nonsense. The proof is your whole nonsense post.

How in anyway way does the Myers graphic have any relative relationship to Knotts Lab? If you lack an answer maybe don’t post anything let alone these replies.

Feel free to explain the relationship between the Myers and Knotts Lab and provide proof that Myers animation, in any manner, has an impact on understanding how Knotts Lab has a bullet striking JBC in the back in their animation, but instead they falsely state SBT is proven false by their work when in reality they proved it.

i think you need to do what you seem to have not done and actually read what i posted , i made ZERO claims regarding the Knotts lab animation . but i was quite clear in what i said and in the point i was making . enough said .