That Is Not Officer Haygood = Conspiracy! Prove Me Wrong Challenge

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 I circled a three wheel motorcycle on the right side of a frame from the Darnell film, and the officer with one glove off is walking toward it.  Could it be that Haygood made the transmission he made at 12:35 from the circled 3-wheel motorcycle which he's walking towards? 



  Thanks for posting that still frame from the Darnell snippet. When an officer makes a call from his motorcycle, that specific motorcycle has a number that is then automatically attached to the transcript of that radio transmission. That number is not the result of a possible "verbal" number being given. During his WC testimony, Officer Haygood verified both his number and his having made the 12:35 radio transmission.
   With this same Darnell snippet showing the Elm St Ext to be jammed with people, means we are seeing this "No Glove Cop" at around 12:38. This is well after Officer Haygood made his documented 12:35 police radio transmission from his motorcycle parked at the Elm St curb near the Triple Underpass. The "No Glove Cop" we see on the Darnell Film is NOT Officer Haygood.     

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  Thanks for posting that still frame from the Darnell snippet. When an officer makes a call from his motorcycle, that specific motorcycle has a number that is then automatically attached to the transcript of that radio transmission. That number is not the result of a possible "verbal" number being given. During his WC testimony, Officer Haygood verified both his number and his having made the 12:35 radio transmission.
   With this same Darnell snippet showing the Elm St Ext to be jammed with people, means we are seeing this "No Glove Cop" at around 12:38. This is well after Officer Haygood made his documented 12:35 police radio transmission from his motorcycle parked at the Elm St curb near the Triple Underpass. The "No Glove Cop" we see on the Darnell Film is NOT Officer Haygood.   

 ' "When an officer makes a call from his motorcycle, that specific motorcycle has a number that is then automatically attached to the transcript of that radio transmission. That number is not the result of a possible "verbal" number being given." ' 

 Can you clarify this for me?

 My question is:  How does a number from an officer's transmission over the radio become a "transcript", unless someone transcribes the recording-like Bowles did for the WC?  This doesn't have anything to do with the radio he is using.  Officers have a call# they use, and they give that number to the dispatcher.  So what number are you referring to?    My point is, is that Haygood is walking towards the parked 3 wheeler seen in the Darnell film ( I know you don't believe it's Haygood, but I do), and he could have easily used the 3 wheeler's radio to make his 12:35 transmission to dispatch. 

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  Thanks for posting that still frame from the Darnell snippet. When an officer makes a call from his motorcycle, that specific motorcycle has a number that is then automatically attached to the transcript of that radio transmission. That number is not the result of a possible "verbal" number being given. During his WC testimony, Officer Haygood verified both his number and his having made the 12:35 radio transmission.
   With this same Darnell snippet showing the Elm St Ext to be jammed with people, means we are seeing this "No Glove Cop" at around 12:38. This is well after Officer Haygood made his documented 12:35 police radio transmission from his motorcycle parked at the Elm St curb near the Triple Underpass. The "No Glove Cop" we see on the Darnell Film is NOT Officer Haygood.   
RS: When an officer makes a call from his motorcycle, that specific motorcycle has a number that is then automatically attached to the transcript of that radio transmission. That number is not the result of a possible "verbal" number being given

This is simply not true. None of it. Harkness was unit 260 that day, but the Martin film shows that he was riding three-wheeler 99. Tippit was unit 78, but with driving car 10. In the DPD radio recordings, it's obvious that the transmitting officer's mouth is the generating the unit number, which is then repeated  by the (human) transcriptionist.  In 1963, the technology didn't exist to to automatically stamp the vehicle number on the transmission or the recording in any practical way.


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RS: When an officer makes a call from his motorcycle, that specific motorcycle has a number that is then automatically attached to the transcript of that radio transmission. That number is not the result of a possible "verbal" number being given

This is simply not true. None of it. Harkness was unit 260 that day, but the Martin film shows that he was riding three-wheeler 99. Tippit was unit 78, but with driving car 10. In the DPD radio recordings, it's obvious that the transmitting officer's mouth is the generating the unit number, which is then repeated  by the (human) transcriptionist.  In 1963, the technology didn't exist to to automatically stamp the vehicle number on the transmission or the recording in any practical way.

   Who said anything about a "vehicle number"?

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' "When an officer makes a call from his motorcycle, that specific motorcycle has a number that is then automatically attached to the transcript of that radio transmission. That number is not the result of a possible "verbal" number being given." ' 

 Can you clarify this for me?

 My question is:  How does a number from an officer's transmission over the radio become a "transcript", unless someone transcribes the recording-like Bowles did for the WC?  This doesn't have anything to do with the radio he is using.  Officers have a call# they use, and they give that number to the dispatcher.  So what number are you referring to?    My point is, is that Haygood is walking towards the parked 3 wheeler seen in the Darnell film ( I know you don't believe it's Haygood, but I do), and he could have easily used the 3 wheeler's radio to make his 12:35 transmission to dispatch.

      So if Haygood made his 12:35 radio transmission from the Harkness 3 wheel motorcycle, How does Harkness somehow find Euins, interview him, and then make his 12:36 radio transmission from the very same motorcycle? Tick/Tock/Tick/Tock.
     On top of that, this above chronological order does Not fit the Harkness WC Testimony. Harkness testified that he initially rode down Main St, checked around on the other side of the Triple Underpass, eventually went back to the TSBD, found Euins in the railroad yard, made his 12:36 radio transmission, took Euins to the front of the TSBD, loaded Euins into Inspector Sawyer's car, and then went and secured the back of the TSBD. This is where we see Harkness with the "No Glove Cop". And your claim is that Haygood used the Harkness motorcycle radio at 12:35 AFTER he had done all of this? Oh, and Inspector Sawyer arrived at the TSBD at 12:35. How is Euins already sitting in the back of Sawyer's car when Officer Haygood is allegedly making a 12:35 radio call from the Harkness motorcycle? This just does Not work 5 ways to Sunday. 
     Rather than going back-n-forth about how cop's calls were ID'd, I would ask that you look at the WC QA's of Haygood, Harkness, and Inspector Sawyer. It will be clear how this was done
     This Darnell snippet is very important as it also shows how crowded the Elm St Extension was when we see this "One Glove Cop" and Officer Harkness together, vs the Elm St Ext being empty when Harkness and Euins sped down it and then when Euins was sitting inside Inspector Sawyer's car. And all of this was after Harkness made his 12:36 radio transmission. What we are seeing when "One Glove Cop" and Harkness are together is happening around 12:38. Well after Officer Haygood's 12:35 radio transmission.
     I know how skeptics want to try and somehow get around ALL of this evidence, but it is clear. The "No Glove Cop" is not Officer Haygood. The real question is, who is this guy?   
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      So if Haygood made his 12:35 radio transmission from the Harkness 3 wheel motorcycle, How does Harkness somehow find Euins, interview him, and then make his 12:36 radio transmission from the very same motorcycle? Tick/Tock/Tick/Tock.
     On top of that, this above chronological order does Not fit the Harkness WC Testimony. Harkness testified that he initially rode down Main St, checked around on the other side of the Triple Underpass, eventually went back to the TSBD, found Euins in the railroad yard, made his 12:36 radio transmission, took Euins to the front of the TSBD, loaded Euins into Inspector Sawyer's car, and then went and secured the back of the TSBD. This is where we see Harkness with the "No Glove Cop". And your claim is that Haygood used the Harkness motorcycle radio at 12:35 AFTER he had done all of this? Oh, and Inspector Sawyer arrived at the TSBD at 12:35. How is Euins already sitting in the back of Sawyer's car when Officer Haygood is allegedly making a 12:35 radio call from the Harkness motorcycle? This just does Not work 5 ways to Sunday. 
     Rather than going back-n-forth about how cop's calls were ID'd, I would ask that you look at the WC QA's of Haygood, Harkness, and Inspector Sawyer. It will be clear how this was done
     This Darnell snippet is very important as it also shows how crowded the Elm St Extension was when we see this "One Glove Cop" and Officer Harkness together, vs the Elm St Ext being empty when Harkness and Euins sped down it and then when Euins was sitting inside Inspector Sawyer's car. And all of this was after Harkness made his 12:36 radio transmission. What we are seeing when "One Glove Cop" and Harkness are together is happening around 12:38. Well after Officer Haygood's 12:35 radio transmission.
     I know how skeptics want to try and somehow get around ALL of this evidence, but it is clear. The "No Glove Cop" is not Officer Haygood. The real question is, who is this guy?


    Royell,  Please respond to my question, because none of what you said makes any sense: 

  My question is:  How does a number from an officer's transmission over the radio become a part of a "transcript" until someone transcribes the recording-like Bowles did for the WC?  This doesn't have anything to do with the radio Haygood is using.  Officers have a call# they use, and they give that number to the dispatcher.  So what number are you referring to? 
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                                 DPD OFFICER HAYGOOD WARREN COMMISSION TESTIMONY

          OFFICER HAYGOOD - "...and after talking to him and the man that was on the other side that complained he was hit by a piece of concrete from the ricochet at that time, I CALLED THE DISPATCHER and asked for squads to cover the TSBD building off".
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           The man being referenced by Haygood as being "hit by a piece of concrete" was James Tague. Tague was standing close to the Triple Underpass and close to Haygood and his motorcycle. The above testimony proves the Haygood 12:35 radio transmission was made from his DPD motorcycle parked at the Elm St curb.
            I know skeptics find it hard to believe the MIS ID of Officer Haygood has somehow stood for 62+ years, but the MOUNTAIN OF FACTS clearly prove the "No Glove Cop" is not Officer Haygood. So much so, that the current claim now being made is that Haygood actually made his 12:35 radio transmission from another DPD Cop's motorcycle radio. This claim is immediately debunked by Officer Haygood's WC testimony. 
           So who do we think this "No Glove Cop" really is? Is it really a DPD Cop? One thing is for certain. After 62+ years, I have proven the "No Glove Cop" on the Darnell Film is NOT OFFICER HAYGOOD.   
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