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That Is Not Officer Haygood = Conspiracy! Prove Me Wrong Challenge

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Charles Collins:
Bobby Hargis’ testimony indicates that he was in that area about the time that the TSBD was finally sealed. From his testimony to the WC:

… so, I came back to the Texas School Book Depository. At that time it seemed like the activity was centered around the Texas School Book Depository, so, that is when I heard someone say, one of the sergeants or lieutenants, I don't know, "Don't let any- one out of the Texas School Book Depository," and so, I went to a gap that had not been filled, which was at the southwest corner. Mr. STERN. And you remained there until you were relieved? Mr. HARGIS. Yes.

I have drawn a yellow circle around the area that is the southwest corner of the TSBD. Isn’t this the area where the motorcycle cop in question was filmed?



Charles Collins:
Mark Tyler’s animation Motorcade 63 indicates that Hargis had already ran to the top of the triple underpass to look and ran back to his motorcycle and was headed toward the underpass on his motorcycle within a minute of the headshot. I have circled Hargis (#3) in this screenshot of the animation:



Royell Storing:

--- Quote from: Charles Collins on March 11, 2024, 12:39:17 PM ---Bobby Hargis’ testimony indicates that he was in that area about the time that the TSBD was finally sealed. From his testimony to the WC:

… so, I came back to the Texas School Book Depository. At that time it seemed like the activity was centered around the Texas School Book Depository, so, that is when I heard someone say, one of the sergeants or lieutenants, I don't know, "Don't let any- one out of the Texas School Book Depository," and so, I went to a gap that had not been filled, which was at the southwest corner. Mr. STERN. And you remained there until you were relieved? Mr. HARGIS. Yes.

I have drawn a yellow circle around the area that is the southwest corner of the TSBD. Isn’t this the area where the motorcycle cop in question was filmed?



--- End quote ---

       Yes, that yellow circle is the area/Elm St Ext.  To provide further context to the Hargis journey, after returning to his motorcycle sitting near the Elm St (S) curb, Hargis then rode his motorcycle (W) on Elm St and explored a wide area on the (W) side/other side of the Triple Underpass. It would be After doing all of this that Hargis returned to Dealey Plaza and that general area you have circled. 

Mitch Todd:

--- Quote from: Charles Collins on March 11, 2024, 12:39:17 PM ---Bobby Hargis’ testimony indicates that he was in that area about the time that the TSBD was finally sealed. From his testimony to the WC:

… so, I came back to the Texas School Book Depository. At that time it seemed like the activity was centered around the Texas School Book Depository, so, that is when I heard someone say, one of the sergeants or lieutenants, I don't know, "Don't let any- one out of the Texas School Book Depository," and so, I went to a gap that had not been filled, which was at the southwest corner. Mr. STERN. And you remained there until you were relieved? Mr. HARGIS. Yes.

I have drawn a yellow circle around the area that is the southwest corner of the TSBD. Isn’t this the area where the motorcycle cop in question was filmed?



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In the Darnell film, the motorcycle officer and Harkness are in the railyard west of the TSBD, roughly around the leftmost corner of the red pentagon. The Elm street extension (What a couple of longtime Big D OGs have told me is called "Old Elm," since the "extension" is actually the westernmost end of the original Elm street) only extends to the end of the TSBD lot. Anything to the west is part of the Union Terminal railyard.   

Charles Collins:
Thanks Mitch and Royell. It seems to me that the area around the west most corner of the red pentagon (outline) is reasonably close to where Hargis testified he positioned himself. Hargis said someone of rank (he didn’t remember who) wanted the TSBD sealed. And in the time between when the shots occurred and when the TSBD was sealed, there was a lot of police activity in the area of the railroad yard/parking lot. It appears to me that Hargis could have gone back to the vicinity TSBD and seen all the activity behind it and went towards that area of activity. I think that it could have been there (in the area that was filmed by Darnell) that he heard the request to seal off the TSBD. Whether or not anyone agrees that this is a possibility, to me it appears much more likely than the “mystery cop” that “equals conspiracy.”

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