Addressing Griffith's Zapruder Fakery. Jackie & Hill on Trunk

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Re: Addressing Griffith's Zapruder Fakery. Jackie & Hill on Trunk
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2024, 07:06:03 PM »
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The original post on this thread by John Mytton, with the assist from the excellent graphics of Jerry Organ convincingly refutes the weak arguments of Michael Griffith that the Zapruder film must be fake. So much so that Michael Griffith has not even attempted a response, even through he has posted to this forum as recently as May 22, 2024.
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Re: Addressing Griffith's Zapruder Fakery. Jackie & Hill on Trunk
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2025, 03:50:10 PM »
Bump.

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Re: Addressing Griffith's Zapruder Fakery. Jackie & Hill on Trunk
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2025, 04:05:20 PM »
I already answered all of your and Organ's arguments. You are simply ignoring what the photographic evidence shows. Organ has discredited himself innumerable times in this forum and has proved he is simply not to be taken seriously.

I might add that Milicent Cranor, one of the most careful, studious researchers around, likewise argues that the Zapruder and Nix frames proves the Zapruder film has been altered.

https://whowhatwhy.org/politics/government-integrity/jfk-assassination-film-proof-of-tampering/

Here's my article on evidence of alteration:

Evidence of Alteration in the Zapruder Film
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YOK_7uLe49zgXADGQxkIH1dmaEcpyaWd/view

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Re: Addressing Griffith's Zapruder Fakery. Jackie & Hill on Trunk
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Re: Addressing Griffith's Zapruder Fakery. Jackie & Hill on Trunk
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2025, 06:20:16 PM »
 It's obvious why the NIX Film is being trotted out to buttress the dubious Zapruder Film. The Original NIX Film has been missing for decades. On top of that, Nobody can explain the White Shirt Man running Up-The-Steps on the Nix Film. And a White Shirt Man being in this same area was detailed in the Lee Bowers WC Testimony. One assassination film with issues being trotted out to support another assassination film with issues. 2 peas inna pod. 

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I already answered all of your and Organ's arguments. You are simply ignoring what the photographic evidence shows. Organ has discredited himself innumerable times in this forum and has proved he is simply not to be taken seriously.

I might add that Milicent Cranor, one of the most careful, studious researchers around, likewise argues that the Zapruder and Nix frames proves the Zapruder film has been altered.

https://whowhatwhy.org/politics/government-integrity/jfk-assassination-film-proof-of-tampering/

Here's my article on evidence of alteration:

Evidence of Alteration in the Zapruder Film
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YOK_7uLe49zgXADGQxkIH1dmaEcpyaWd/view

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I already answered all of your and Organ's arguments.

You're joking, right? Your understanding of perspective is childlike and the following graphic absolutely demolishes your Hill and Jackie on the trunk garbage.



The following graphic is from the grossly misinformed mind of Michael T. Griffith.


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You are simply ignoring what the photographic evidence shows.

By using techniques you simply can't comprehend like computer 3D modelling and advanced film stabilization, all your worthless observations like your insane Brehm's son theory and as shown above by your Jackie and Hill on the Trunk conjecture have been thoroughly destroyed.

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I might add that Milicent Cranor, one of the most careful, studious researchers around, likewise argues that the Zapruder and Nix frames proves the Zapruder film has been altered.

Wow, "careful and studious" that's some powerful credentials she's got there, too bad they are totally inadequate for this discussion. Much like yourself she has no understanding of perspective and her claim that film frames were removed to achieve the Hill and Jackie positions are another embarrassment, as explained to you on numerous occasions, even one removed frame from a panning shot would be immediately obvious and to laughably suggest multiple removed frames, shows a complete lack of understanding of basic cinematography 101.

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Again, I answered you and Organ on this issue. Your whole argument boils down to claiming that the difference in camera angles explains the serious and readily apparent conflict between Jackie's position in relation Hill in Z375/380 and her position in the corresponding Nix frame. IOW, you're saying this serious conflict is really just a remarkable optical illusion caused by the difference in the camera angles. And I say that this argument is invalid, that the camera angles are not different enough to explain the obvious conflict between Z375/380 and the Nix frame.


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  This is what they always do. When jammed up with conflicting JFK Assassination images, they claim there is a "perspective" issue. And then they accuse You of being Mr Magoo. Same old, same old.

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Again, I answered you and Organ on this issue. Your whole argument boils down to claiming that the difference in camera angles explains the serious and readily apparent conflict between Jackie's position in relation Hill in Z375/380 and her position in the corresponding Nix frame. IOW, you're saying this serious conflict is really just a remarkable optical illusion caused by the difference in the camera angles. And I say that this argument is invalid, that the camera angles are not different enough to explain the obvious conflict between Z375/380 and the Nix frame.

Griffith,

Please remind me.

How many bad guys and bad gals do you figure were involved, altogether, in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, the getting-away, the film-and x-ray-altering, and the all-important (and continuing!!!) cover up?

Just a few, or oodles and gobs?

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