How many JFKA CT's also endorse other conspiracies, like 9/11, OJ, Moon etc.?

[Jim Hawthorn]

Thanks, for the advice!

Because this section should be reserved for the most logical and totally well thought out threads, like that absolutely brilliant thread that postulates that at the same day and date that Oswald took his rifle to work, and planned on shooting the ground, yes shoot the ground, you know to only scare people!, that someone else and their team who were totally unrelated, and who by chance just randomly picked the exact same time and exact same location, and very cleverly decided to set up a triangulation of snipers to also kill the President!!

So yes Jim, this section is truly deserving of the most scholarly threads that obviously have a lot of intellect invested in them!

Congratulations!

JohnM

Ho ho.
There was no "random picking" of a location. Dealey Plaza was obviously perfect. There is nothing at all far-fetched about separate people acting on that opportune moment.
The hole in the back of Kennedy's head and the entry wound at his throat prove that he wasn't the only one shooting that day (irrespective of whether Oswald's intention was a stunt or a real attempt to kill).

[John Mytton]

Ho ho.
There was no "random picking" of a location. Dealey Plaza was obviously perfect. There is nothing at all far-fetched about separate people acting on that opportune moment.
The hole in the back of Kennedy's head and the entry wound at his throat prove that he wasn't the only one shooting that day (irrespective of whether Oswald's intention was a stunt or a real attempt to kill).

There was no "random picking" of a location. Dealey Plaza was obviously perfect. There is nothing at all far-fetched about separate people acting on that opportune moment.

Kennedy's Limo Parades went through many American cities and covered miles and miles and miles of road but for some reason another team of snipers picked the exact location and time that Oswald decided to shoot the ground? You can't be serious, but what boggles the mind is that you actually are!

The hole in the back of Kennedy's head and the entry wound at his throat prove that he wasn't the only one shooting that day (irrespective of whether Oswald's intention was a stunt or a real attempt to kill).

Yes there was a bullet entrance hole on the back of Kennedy's head and the bullet exit hole on the front of Kennedy's neck was cause by a FMJ bullet which is designed to pass through human flesh and not expand and cause excessive internal damage. And you do know that 94% of the earwitnesses said ALL the shots came from only 1 direction meaning that there was no cross fire, and since we can confirm that both Kennedy were shot from behind therefore ALL shots came from behind.
Besides why on Earth would you have a sniper in front when your Patsy was high and behind, have you thought this through?

The configuration of Dealey Plaza made predicting an exact shot location difficult but shots from different directions is immediately clear.



JohnM

[John Mytton]

No one believes that and one glance thru his history quickly exposes the fraud.

Geez, you Kooks are so sensitive, a little well intentioned ribbing is hardly a mean spirited insult.

JohnM

[John Mytton]

Why do you need "even more ammunition"?

Wow, the irony is obviously lost on you, but this relentless harassment from you is the very epitome of bombarding me with your off topic "ammunition", at least I use the evidence in the JFK case whereas you are just a nasty little man who scrapes the gutters to try to gain any advantage.

JohnM

[Jim Hawthorn]

Besides why on Earth would you have a sniper in front when your Patsy was high and behind, have you thought this through?

Oswald wasn't the "patsy" at that stage at all. As I said, this theory suggests that Oswald had no connection whatsoever to the conspiracy cell. They were completely unaware of him until his shots rang out. Oswald was framed for the murder after the fact. The WC knew that there was a conspiracy but had to pin it on the LN.
As President Ford told President Giscard D'Estaing in the 70s: “We first concluded that it was not an isolated crime, it was something organized. We were sure that it was organized. But we were unable to find out by who it was organized’

[Martin Weidmann]

Wow, the irony is obviously lost on you, but this relentless harassment from you is the very epitome of bombarding me with your off topic "ammunition", at least I use the evidence in the JFK case whereas you are just a nasty little man who scrapes the gutters to try to gain any advantage.

JohnM

I'm just asking a question that you are afraid to answer. You can stop the so-called "relentless harassment" instantly by answering the question.

And as far as using the evidence in the JFK case, I have to admit that you do indeed use it, but only for all sorts of misrepresentations to allegedly "support" superficial conclusions, bogus claims and utter speculation.

a nasty little man who scrapes the gutters to try to gain any advantage.

As this goes to your mindset, what advantage am I trying to gain, by asking you a simple question?

Oh, and before I forget, why do you need "even more ammunition"?

You seem to be the only one using that word in relation to something you described as "a figurative Weapon of War"

Well Duh!, Fergus said "to hand you a stick so you can then beat them with it" and Robert posted "John is looking for a stick to beat you with."
And in case you didn't know, a "stick" in this context is a figurative Weapon of War, so I simply responded that, I didn't need any more ammunition(sticks) because Kooks like you and your new best mate, have supplied plenty!
Get it now, Einstein?

JohnM

Btw... Fergus actually said;

lol that looks like you are expecting people to hand you a stick so you can then beat them with it on this forum for years to come . this is a jfk assassination discussion forum .

we wouldn't want you to misrepresent what he actually said, would we now?

[John Mytton]

Oswald wasn't the "patsy" at that stage at all. As I said, this theory suggests that Oswald had no connection whatsoever to the conspiracy cell. They were completely unaware of him until his shots rang out. Oswald was framed for the murder after the fact. The WC knew that there was a conspiracy but had to pin it on the LN.
As President Ford told President Giscard D'Estaing in the 70s: “We first concluded that it was not an isolated crime, it was something organized. We were sure that it was organized. But we were unable to find out by who it was organized’

The WC knew that there was a conspiracy but had to pin it on the LN.

I have no doubt that a possible conspiracy was investigated because according to the WC conclusion and Ford's HSCA testimony, Ford says, they tried to find a conspiracy but couldn't find one, but as for the Warren Commission "knowing" there was a conspiracy and having to "pin it on" Lee Harvey Oswald, is simply a product of an over active imagination.

President FORD - There was a recommendation, as I recall, from the staff that could be summarized this way. No. 1, Lee Harvey Oswald was the assassin. Two, there was no conspiracy, foreign or domestic. The commission, after looking at this suggested language from the staff, decided unanimously that the wording should be much like this, and I am not quoting precisely from the Commission staff, but I am quoting the substance. No. 1, that Lee Harvey Oswald was the assassin. No. 2, the Commission has found no evidence of a conspiracy, foreign or domestic. The second point is quite different from the language which was recommended by the staff. I think the Commission was right to make that revision and I stand by it today.
https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/jfkinfo/hscaford.htm

Conclusions of the Warren Commission Report

The report concluded that:

1. The shots which killed President Kennedy and wounded Governor Connally were fired from the sixth-floor window at the southeast corner of the Texas School Book Depository.
2. President Kennedy was first struck by a bullet which entered at the back of his neck and exited through the lower front portion of his neck, causing a wound which would not necessarily have been lethal. The President was struck by a second bullet, which entered the right-rear portion of his head, causing a massive and fatal wound.
3. Governor Connally was struck by a bullet which entered on the right side of his back and traveled downward through the right side of his chest, exiting below his right nipple. This bullet then passed through his right wrist and entered his left thigh then it caused a superficial wound.
4. There is no credible evidence that the shots were fired from the Triple Underpass, ahead of the motorcade, or from any other location.
5. The weight of the evidence indicates that there were three shots fired.
6. Although it is not necessary to any essential findings of the Commission to determine just which shot hit Governor Connally, there is very persuasive evidence from the experts to indicate that the same bullet which pierced the President's throat also caused Governor Connally's wounds. However, Governor Connally's testimony and certain other factors have given rise to some difference of opinion as to this probability but there is no question in the mind of any member of the Commission that all the shots which caused the President's and Governor Connally's wounds were fired from the sixth-floor window of the Texas School Book Depository.
7. The shots which killed President Kennedy and wounded Governor Connally were fired by Lee Harvey Oswald.
8. Oswald killed Dallas Police Patrolman J. D. Tippit approximately 45 minutes after the assassination.
9. Ruby entered the basement of the Dallas Police Department and killed Lee Harvey Oswald and there is no evidence to support the rumor that Ruby may have been assisted by any members of the Dallas Police Department.
10. The Commission has found no evidence that either Lee Harvey Oswald or Jack Ruby was part of any conspiracy, domestic or foreign, to assassinate President Kennedy.
11 The Commission has found no evidence of conspiracy, subversion, or disloyalty to the U.S. Government by any Federal, State, or local official.
12. The Commission could not make any definitive determination of Oswald's motives.
13. The Commission believes that recommendations for improvements in Presidential protection are compelled by the facts disclosed in this investigation.

And the HSCA 15 years later came to the same conclusion that Oswald fired three shots, two of which struck the President.

1. Lee Harvey Oswald fired three shots at Kennedy. The second and third shots Oswald fired struck the President. The third shot he fired killed the President.

JohnM