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Offline Steve Barber

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« Reply #77 on: February 12, 2024, 01:32:29 AM »
      (1) "SCIENCE is in the Eye of the beholder"?? Not true.  But this does DQ you from asking for anyone to ever PROVE anything. And know that I will remind of your laughable dictum whenever required. (2) Religion is FAITH Based. Enough said. (3) The Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE finding that the, "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE" was "....all over the news". Widen your horizons.
       

   "Not true". 
   Yes, it is true. My personal opinion on the acoustics, for example. I don't care how many scientists said there were gunshots on the Dictabelt. Same ith your guys and the SBF.
 
"[T]his does DQ you from asking for anyone to ever PROVE anything. And know that I will remind of your laughable dictum whenever required."
 
 Don't flatter yourself,Storing.  You forget that I disproved a bunch of scientists who said that there are gunshots on the Dictabelt recording when there are none. And I didn't need a scientific panel to prove that the crosstalk I discovered disproved the scientists at BBN and Weiss and Aschkenasy. I knew what it was going to do to the conclusions of the scientists hired by the HSCA the moment I heard the crosstalk. 

   " The Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE finding that the, "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE" was "....all over the news". Widen your horizons." 

 How about some sources?   Furthermore, there has yet to be any further news on the Knotts conclusions, and whether or not they're valid conclusions. As long as they leave Governor Connally seated the way their model shows it, it will never be valid. 

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« Reply #78 on: February 12, 2024, 08:08:56 PM »
   "Not true". 
   Yes, it is true. My personal opinion on the acoustics, for example. I don't care how many scientists said there were gunshots on the Dictabelt. Same ith your guys and the SBF.
 
"[T]his does DQ you from asking for anyone to ever PROVE anything. And know that I will remind of your laughable dictum whenever required."
 
 Don't flatter yourself,Storing.  You forget that I disproved a bunch of scientists who said that there are gunshots on the Dictabelt recording when there are none. And I didn't need a scientific panel to prove that the crosstalk I discovered disproved the scientists at BBN and Weiss and Aschkenasy. I knew what it was going to do to the conclusions of the scientists hired by the HSCA the moment I heard the crosstalk. 

   " The Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE finding that the, "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE" was "....all over the news". Widen your horizons." 

 How about some sources?   Furthermore, there has yet to be any further news on the Knotts conclusions, and whether or not they're valid conclusions. As long as they leave Governor Connally seated the way their model shows it, it will never be valid.

    Permit me to help you out with the still ongoing dictabelt issue. Sitzman during her Entire interview by Josiah Thompson, talked about numerous things simultaneously. She's tough to follow, so the listener needs to pay very close attention. At one point, Thompson was asking her about possibly hearing shots from close by. Thompson had been told by some other JFK Assassination researcher that Sitzman had previously detailed hearing shot(s) and their hurting her ears. (something along these lines). Sitzman told Thompson this was Not true and that she never said anything like that. She then said, "the loudest thing I heard that afternoon was the siren, and that was..............", at this point Thompson CUT HER OFF. I think he did this because Sitzman was Not giving answers that supported his theories. I believe that Sitzman was about to say the loudest thing she heard that day was the SIREN on the Queen Mary and maybe the JFK Limo. SA Kinney/"Queen Mary" Driver, detailed in his "Original Report" that he hit that cars' SIREN immediately after seeing JFK, "fell to the seat to the left". Kinney also noted that SA Greer did likewise at the same time with the JFK Limo SIREN. This mandates: (1) Find out exactly which model Sirens were used on the Queen Mary and the JFK Limo, (2) Obtain those same model Siren(s), (3) get an "acoustic footprint" on one/both sirens, (might be identical Sirens), (4) Search for the SIREN(s) Acoustic Footprint appearing on the dictabelt. That "footprint" should SUDDENLY Appear at the same point in time that SA Kinney hit it. That Siren "footprint" should appear a few seconds after the Kill Shot Acoustic Footprint  If there is No Trace of the Siren(s) Acoustic Footprint, then that DPD motorcycle recording was Not done inside Dealey Plaza at the time of the shooting. The HSCA did acoustic footprint matchups with shots fired from different locations inside Dealey Plaza vs the dictabelt recording. Doing this same procedure with the AUTO SIREN(S) should also be employed. Any possible DPD Cop Car sirens and possible motorcycle sirens would have been a generally common sound to the ear of Sitzman. I believe the Siren(s) used by the Queen Mary and the JFK Limo would have sounded Different/Louder to the ear of Sitzman. This Siren(s) sound "difference" made them stand out to Sitzman. The Siren(s) sound being so great/different that it warranted her mentioning it to Thompson.         
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« Reply #79 on: February 13, 2024, 05:38:35 PM »
    Permit me to help you out with the still ongoing dictabelt issue. Sitzman during her Entire interview by Josiah Thompson, talked about numerous things simultaneously. She's tough to follow, so the listener needs to pay very close attention. At one point, Thompson was asking her about possibly hearing shots from close by. Thompson had been told by some other JFK Assassination researcher that Sitzman had previously detailed hearing shot(s) and their hurting her ears. (something along these lines). Sitzman told Thompson this was Not true and that she never said anything like that. She then said, "the loudest thing I heard that afternoon was the siren, and that was..............", at this point Thompson CUT HER OFF. I think he did this because Sitzman was Not giving answers that supported his theories. I believe that Sitzman was about to say the loudest thing she heard that day was the SIREN on the Queen Mary and maybe the JFK Limo. SA Kinney/"Queen Mary" Driver, detailed in his "Original Report" that he hit that cars' SIREN immediately after seeing JFK, "fell to the seat to the left". Kinney also noted that SA Greer did likewise at the same time with the JFK Limo SIREN. This mandates: (1) Find out exactly which model Sirens were used on the Queen Mary and the JFK Limo, (2) Obtain those same model Siren(s), (3) get an "acoustic footprint" on one/both sirens, (might be identical Sirens), (4) Search for the SIREN(s) Acoustic Footprint appearing on the dictabelt. That "footprint" should SUDDENLY Appear at the same point in time that SA Kinney hit it. That Siren "footprint" should appear a few seconds after the Kill Shot Acoustic Footprint  If there is No Trace of the Siren(s) Acoustic Footprint, then that DPD motorcycle recording was Not done inside Dealey Plaza at the time of the shooting. The HSCA did acoustic footprint matchups with shots fired from different locations inside Dealey Plaza vs the dictabelt recording. Doing this same procedure with the AUTO SIREN(S) should also be employed. Any possible DPD Cop Car sirens and possible motorcycle sirens would have been a generally common sound to the ear of Sitzman. I believe the Siren(s) used by the Queen Mary and the JFK Limo would have sounded Different/Louder to the ear of Sitzman. This Siren(s) sound "difference" made them stand out to Sitzman. The Siren(s) sound being so great/different that it warranted her mentioning it to Thompson.       

   Nice dodge, Mr. Storing!

 Firstly, I'm not interested in your "help" re: the acoustics. It's over and done with.

 Secondly-and lastly- Marilyn Sitzman did, in fact, tell Tink Thompson during that interview with her that the loudest thing she heard was the siren.
Yes, Thompson "cut her off", but she told him anyway, that the siren was the loudest thing she heard.   

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« Reply #80 on: February 13, 2024, 05:42:48 PM »
   Nice dodge, Mr. Storing!

 Firstly, I'm not interested in your "help" re: the acoustics. It's over and done with.

 Secondly-and lastly- Marilyn Sitzman did, in fact, tell Tink Thompson during that interview with her that the loudest thing she heard was the siren.
Yes, Thompson "cut her off", but she told him anyway, that the siren was the loudest thing she heard.

   You might like this to be done with, but Thompson differs with you. My siren solution would put it to bed one way or the other. This is EXACTLY why these unresolved issues continue to dog this case. People with skin in the game actually want it to drag on. You're Welcome!
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« Reply #81 on: February 13, 2024, 06:16:57 PM »
   You might like this to be done with, but Thompson differs with you. My siren solution would put it to bed one way or the other. This is EXACTLY why these unresolved issues continue to dog this case. People with skin in the game actually want it to drag on. You're Welcome!

 No, I know it is over with.  I know Thompson differs with me, and I know why/how.  He's a believer in the BS that Don Thomas has in his book, and this is the only reason Thompson differs with me.  The fact that Thomas is full of crap with his "crosstalk" (that doesn't exist) which he claims proves there are still gunshots on the Dictabelt, is ludicous on its  face.  And Thomas knows it!  I put it to bed in my piece which not only Bugliosi published in his book, but Dale Myers published on his Secrets Of A Homicide Website when I explained what Thomas has done with a channel 2 transmission which says is picked up by the open microphone, and so it also appears during the open mic sequence, therefore was recorded onto the Dictabelt. 
I'm not going to go into all of it, I'm going to provide the link to my piece on Dale Myers' Website. It's irrefutable proof that what Thomas says is a transmission from channel 2 being picked up by the open mic is NOT-NOT "crosstalk".  Period.    https://jfkfiles.blogspot.com/2007/07/of-crosstalk-and-bells-rebuttal-to-don.html

 Thompson agrees with Thomas, and had I known this when Thompson was interviewing me in 2014 for his book "Last Second In Dallas", I would have saved him a ton of trouble.

 You have nothing to offer regarding the acoustics. 
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« Reply #82 on: February 13, 2024, 09:03:08 PM »
No, I know it is over with.  I know Thompson differs with me, and I know why/how.  He's a believer in the BS that Don Thomas has in his book, and this is the only reason Thompson differs with me.  The fact that Thomas is full of crap with his "crosstalk" (that doesn't exist) which he claims proves there are still gunshots on the Dictabelt, is ludicous on its  face.  And Thomas knows it!  I put it to bed in my piece which not only Bugliosi published in his book, but Dale Myers published on his Secrets Of A Homicide Website when I explained what Thomas has done with a channel 2 transmission which says is picked up by the open microphone, and so it also appears during the open mic sequence, therefore was recorded onto the Dictabelt. 
I'm not going to go into all of it, I'm going to provide the link to my piece on Dale Myers' Website. It's irrefutable proof that what Thomas says is a transmission from channel 2 being picked up by the open mic is NOT-NOT "crosstalk".  Period.    https://jfkfiles.blogspot.com/2007/07/of-crosstalk-and-bells-rebuttal-to-don.html

 Thompson agrees with Thomas, and had I known this when Thompson was interviewing me in 2014 for his book "Last Second In Dallas", I would have saved him a ton of trouble.

 You have nothing to offer regarding the acoustics.

      The SIREN Test would conclusively put an end to all this back-n-forth. Instead, you choose to quickly walk away. If you, without a doubt, believe what you are saying, what do you have to lose? Oh yeah, "face" or today what they call "street cred". You either want The Truth or you Do Not. This is a perfect example of why this case remains Unsolved after 60 yrs.   

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« Reply #83 on: February 13, 2024, 09:38:23 PM »
      The SIREN Test would conclusively put an end to all this back-n-forth. Instead, you choose to quickly walk away. If you, without a doubt, believe what you are saying, what do you have to lose? Oh yeah, "face" or today what they call "street cred". You either want The Truth or you Do Not. This is a perfect example of why this case remains Unsolved after 60 yrs.

 I already know where you going with this.  You think the open microphone was in Dealey Plaza.  It wasn't.  It didn't record any gunshots. it was miles away from Dealey Plaza. , miles away from the Queen Mary when Kinney hit the siren button.  And do NOT speak to me about "Truth", Storing.  You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and kicked your behind!
And furthermore, this "case" was solved 60 years ago!  It's just that people like you keep trying and trying to perpeuate it with silly, ridiculous little theories that have no bearing on the assassination whatsoever. 
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