Do we know anymore at 60 years?

[Fergus O'Brien]

hi Royell , by the way merry christmas to you and yours .

youtube really does have a wealth of very useful jfk assassination related content . there are several versions of the Zapruder film . i mean that you can see close up etc . the more we can see , the better we can see it the better our understanding gets . so youtube can be an invaluable tool for anyone researching or those just starting out looking at this case .of course people will get both CT and LN sides of the story .

the up close and or clearer versions of the Zapruder film do let us see things a bit more clearer . for example over the years ive had many people say the words JFK grabbed / clutched his throat , the media uses this wording also . i guess the mentality is if a bullet exited his throat as in via the SBT that that would cause him to grab his throat . but he never did that . both arms / hands did raise up to about chin height , with both fists balled . then Jackie sees there is a problem as he is leaned towards her . and she has a look . but at no point do we see a throat grab .

but you mentioned Connally and he is important also as you know . his position , his actions , where his right hand is etc . so i agree with you people , certainly people new to this case should study these copies of the Zapruder film .but even those of us that have looked at this case a long time can still learn a lot or learn something new . Helmer reenberg has a wealth of videos , film from that day and beyond , practically covering every thing jfk wise . but i will certainly do as you say and check out the JFK theorist .

[Royell Storing]

hi Royell , by the way merry christmas to you and yours .

youtube really does have a wealth of very useful jfk assassination related content . there are several versions of the Zapruder film . i mean that you can see close up etc . the more we can see , the better we can see it the better our understanding gets . so youtube can be an invaluable tool for anyone researching or those just starting out looking at this case .of course people will get both CT and LN sides of the story .

the up close and or clearer versions of the Zapruder film do let us see things a bit more clearer . for example over the years ive had many people say the words JFK grabbed / clutched his throat , the media uses this wording also . i guess the mentality is if a bullet exited his throat as in via the SBT that that would cause him to grab his throat . but he never did that . both arms / hands did raise up to about chin height , with both fists balled . then Jackie sees there is a problem as he is leaned towards her . and she has a look . but at no point do we see a throat grab .

but you mentioned Connally and he is important also as you know . his position , his actions , where his right hand is etc . so i agree with you people , certainly people new to this case should study these copies of the Zapruder film .but even those of us that have looked at this case a long time can still learn a lot or learn something new . Helmer reenberg has a wealth of videos , film from that day and beyond , practically covering every thing jfk wise . but i will certainly do as you say and check out the JFK theorist .

    The thing that really bugs me about Now being able to view the Z Film, Darnell, NIX, Wiegman, etc at a much higher degree of detail/definition is that JFK Assassination "researchers" have been sitting on much of this "detail" for several decades. And this includes the Sixth Floor. These people/institutions have purposely been keeping the "cat in the bag" so as to maximize their "knowledge" advantage/leverage. As we know, "Knowledge is power" = control and $$$. 

[Paul May]

    Another guy on Tilt? You used to be far better than this. That's the 1 major issue that Gunn and Horne agreed on. You need to brush up on the ARRB. Especially the "autopsy".

When asked about Horne’s writings Gunn responded “I don’t read anything written by Doug Horne”.

[Royell Storing]

When asked about Horne’s writings Gunn responded “I don’t read anything written by Doug Horne”.

      It's not unusual for CT's at some point come to a "fork in the road" regarding the best path leading to The Truth.  Josiah Thompson detailed this happening to him and the guy, (forget his name), that initially turned him on to the JFK Assassination. These Alpha Dogs are Independent Thinkers that at some point have the desire to blaze a trail on their own. Kinda like a lead singer leaving a band to go solo. On the other hand, those supporting the 60 yr old status quo have now suddenly had the ground cut out from underneath them by SCIENCE determining that the, "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE". These poor souls are currently meandering around in the hope that someone like Posner, Holland, etc will take them by the hand and instruct them what to do, what to say, and most importantly what to think. This is the difference between being a Ralph Nader vs being a Ralph Kramden.