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Online Tom Graves

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Re: When Was JBC Hit?
« Reply #476 on: Yesterday at 09:58:23 PM »
None of the things you mentioned, other than the JBC Z164 turn, are definitive signs of a reaction to a gunshot. There are other plausible reasons for those movements. The only reason the Z164 is more compelling is because JBC described how he reacted to the sound of the first shot. We see him do exactly what he said he did. If I am correct that the first shot was fired at Z147-148, JBC would have heard it in the Z149-150 window and his reaction would have been roughly 3/4 of a second. The Z155 jiggle/shake of Zapruder's camera is very similar to his reactions at Z227 and Z318, both closely following when known shots were taken. To me, that is the preponderance of evidence as to when the first shot was fired, even if not proof positive.

You're discounting JBC's quick head turn to his left starting at Z-150.

Rhetorical question: Are there people in the Zapruder who are consciously reacting to your missing-everything shot at Z-147 - Z-148?
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Online John Corbett

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Re: When Was JBC Hit?
« Reply #477 on: Yesterday at 10:11:05 PM »
You're discounting JBC's quick head turn to his left starting at Z-150.

Rhetorical question: Are there people in the Zapruder who are consciously reacting to your missing-everything shot at Z-147 - Z-148?

JBC and Rosemary Willis are seen reacting. Then of course, we have Zapruder reacting.

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Re: When Was JBC Hit?
« Reply #478 on: Yesterday at 10:48:40 PM »
JBC and Rosemary Willis are seen reacting. Then of course, we have Zapruder reacting.

JBC began consciously reacting at Z-150 when he quickly turned his head to his left (to be caught "looking straight ahead" in the Z-161 Croft photo).

Rosemary Willis began consciously reacting in Z-140 when she began turning her head away from the limo and back towards the TSBD.

Zapruder may have been buffeted by wind and/or Sitzman may have had a bad case of the hiccups.

Rhetorical question: Why did Elsie Dorman involuntarily stop filming the two times she involuntarily stopped filming?


ME: Elsie Dorman involuntarily stopped filming twice during the JFK assassination. Which Zapruder frames correlate timewise with those two instances?

Perplexity AI: The two involuntary stops in Elsie Dorman’s filming line up, in Zapruder‑time, just before Z133 and then at about Z228, with a third [voluntary] stop later around Z411.

Correlated Zapruder frames

Dale Myers’ epipolar geometric synchronization of the amateur films places Dorman’s three camera interruptions as follows:

First stop: 0.12 seconds before Zapruder starts filming the limousine, i.e., just prior to Z133.

Second stop: at the time equivalent to Zapruder frame Z228 (shortly after the “back/neck” shot near Z223).

Third stop: at the time equivalent to Zapruder frame Z411 (roughly five seconds after the last shot).
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 10:57:13 PM by Tom Graves »

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Re: When Was JBC Hit?
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