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When Was JBC Hit?

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Dan O'meara:
When was JBC shot through the chest?
I ask "when" in terms of the Z-film - when in the Z-film is JBC hit?
That is to say, when does JBC first show signs that he has been hit [as we cannot see the actual bullet entering him].
I am not asking, when does JBC think he was hit or when any other witness believes he was hit or what any "theory" has to say about it.
When, during the Z-film, does JBC show the clear signs of an extreme reaction that can be safely interpreted as being shot through the chest?

In the clip below, which is s bit jerkier than I would like, we see JBC looking off to his right as JFK waves and smiles to the crowds. He is partially obscured by a part of the limo.
JBC is looking off to his right as he disappears behind the Stemmons sign.
He is still looking off to his right as he emerges from behind the Stemmons sign.



Below is z223.
It shows JBC after he emerges from behind the Stemmons sign.
He is still looking off to his right as he was before he passed behind the Stemmons sign and, in my opinion, he looks calm and composed:




Almost immediately after this frame JBC appears to have an extreme reaction.
The clip below is from z222 to z250.
In my opinion it shows JBC having an extreme reaction, most likely to being shot:



Is it an extreme reaction to being shot or could it be something else?
If you agree it is a reaction to being shot then when does this reaction begin?

Dan O'meara:
ROLL UP ROLL UP BOYS AND GIRLS
PICK A Z-FRAME, ANY Z-FRAME

USE THE FRAME COUNT TO PICK WHICH FRAME YOU THINK CONNALLY STARTS TO REACT.

Charles Collins:

--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on November 24, 2023, 10:17:20 AM ---ROLL UP ROLL UP BOYS AND GIRLS
PICK A Z-FRAME, ANY Z-FRAME

USE THE FRAME COUNT TO PICK WHICH FRAME YOU THINK CONNALLY STARTS TO REACT.
--- End quote ---

To me, he appears to be reacting to being shot by 224, if not before.

Dan O'meara:

--- Quote from: Charles Collins on November 24, 2023, 11:36:51 AM ---To me, he appears to be reacting to being shot by 224, if not before.

--- End quote ---

I would certainly have to agree with this assessment.
Below is a rough gif of z224, z225, z226 which, I think, shows JBC beginning to react in an extreme way.



I wonder what other members think of this assessment or if they have a different opinion.

Charles Collins:

--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on November 24, 2023, 01:03:05 PM ---I would certainly have to agree with this assessment.
Below is a rough gif of z224, z225, z226 which, I think, shows JBC beginning to react in an extreme way.



I wonder what other members think of this assessment or if they have a different opinion.

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It is amazing to me how much influence our preconceptions have on what we see in the photographic record. I am not immune to this phenomenon. People who can’t believe the SBT, for whatever reasons, will deny that JBC is reacting to being shot.

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