Oswald's Escape Route Time Trial

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Oswald's Escape Route Time Trial
« Reply #126 on: January 18, 2024, 06:26:34 PM »
The fixation on witness discrepancies while ignoring the elephant in the room is a common trait of many CTers.  There is no doubt that Oswald was at his boardinghouse.  There is no doubt that he was the Tippit scene with a gun at the time the crime was committed.  Several different witnesses place him there.  He literally committed the crime in broad daylight on a public street in the presence of numerous witnesses.  He is still holding the smoking gun. He is arrested with this gun a short distance away after random citizens reported him acting suspiciously.  He had the exact same two brands of ammo when arrested that were used to murder Tippit.  So unlucky!  Endless pedantic nitpicking of testimony and subjective interpretation of those witness recollections to reach a desired outcome in a desperate attempt to suggest false doubt is not a compelling way to rebut the evidence.  It is a good way, however, to take every single thread on this forum down the same rabbit hole.

And that is a perfect example of making cherry picked questionable evidence fit the already pre-existing conclusion.

Endless pedantic nitpicking of testimony and subjective interpretation of those witness recollections to reach a desired outcome in a desperate attempt to suggest false doubt is not a compelling way to rebut the evidence.

Translation: how dare you ask questions about the "evidence" I like, but can't explain or defend with actual sound arguments?

"The evidence that Oswald came down the stairs after the last shot is.... that it happened - "Richard Smith"    :D :D :D :D
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Offline Fergus O'Brien

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Re: Oswald's Escape Route Time Trial
« Reply #127 on: January 18, 2024, 07:06:12 PM »
The fixation on witness discrepancies while ignoring the elephant in the room is a common trait of many CTers.  There is no doubt that Oswald was at his boardinghouse.  There is no doubt that he was the Tippit scene with a gun at the time the crime was committed.  Several different witnesses place him there.  He literally committed the crime in broad daylight on a public street in the presence of numerous witnesses.  He is still holding the smoking gun. He is arrested with this gun a short distance away after random citizens reported him acting suspiciously.  He had the exact same two brands of ammo when arrested that were used to murder Tippit.  So unlucky!  Endless pedantic nitpicking of testimony and subjective interpretation of those witness recollections to reach a desired outcome in a desperate attempt to suggest false doubt is not a compelling way to rebut the evidence.  It is a good way, however, to take every single thread on this forum down the same rabbit hole.

i have no such fixation . i was very clear in saying some witnesses simply being human were wrong in one respect or another , which would not make all that they said unreliable . and that some i would consider to be unreliable for differing reasons .

false doubt ? , i am not a dodgy lawyer looking for anything to create doubt in peoples minds . in fact LN would come closer to that in my humble opinion . for example such as Bugliosi inferring that oswald grabbed a long package from the rear seat of fraziers vehicle and that he then took off quickly leaving frazier behind . this after frazier had CLEARLY stated that he looked and saw that Oswald was actually STILL there STANDING by the cyclone fence WAITING for him .so the picture the BUG painted was not quite the same picture frazier painted was it ? .i call a spade a spade , i say it like it is , i dont say its proven when i cant prove it , i dont claim things to be true that i know are not .yes i am human thus i am fallible , so i can be wrong , and i will be wrong some times but i will always admit it if i am wrong . as far as i am concerned when it comes to this case there is either a valid reason to have doubt or there is not . and unfortunately when it comes to this case whether you like it or not we have very good and valid reasons to doubt / question evidence , witnesses , commissions , agencies etc etc .

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Re: Oswald's Escape Route Time Trial
« Reply #128 on: January 19, 2024, 04:31:54 AM »
The fixation on witness discrepancies while ignoring the elephant in the room is a common trait of many CTers.  There is no doubt that Oswald was at his boardinghouse.  There is no doubt that he was the Tippit scene with a gun at the time the crime was committed.  Several different witnesses place him there.  He literally committed the crime in broad daylight on a public street in the presence of numerous witnesses.  He is still holding the smoking gun. He is arrested with this gun a short distance away after random citizens reported him acting suspiciously.  He had the exact same two brands of ammo when arrested that were used to murder Tippit.  So unlucky!  Endless pedantic nitpicking of testimony and subjective interpretation of those witness recollections to reach a desired outcome in a desperate attempt to suggest false doubt is not a compelling way to rebut the evidence.  It is a good way, however, to take every single thread on this forum down the same rabbit hole.

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He had the exact same two brands of ammo when arrested that were used to murder Tippit.  So unlucky!

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Revolver Cartridges and Cartridge Cases

When Oswald was arrested six live cartridges were found in the revolver. 63 Three were Western .38 Specials, loaded with copper-coated lead bullets, and three were Remington-Peters .38 Specials, loaded with lead bullets. 64 Five additional live cartridges were found in Oswald's pocket, 65 all of which were Western .38 Specials, loaded with copper-coated bullets. 66 The Western and Remington-Peters .88 Special cartridges are virtually identical--the copper coating on the Western bullets is not a full jacket, but only a gilding metal, put on principally for sales appeal. 67

Four expended cartridge cases were found near the site of the Tippit killing. 68 Two of these cartridge cases were Remington-Peters .38 Specials and two were Western .38 Specials. 69 Based on a comparison with test cartridge cases fired in the V510210 revolver, the four cartridge cases were identified as having been fired in the V510210 revolver.

https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/appendix-10.html#revbul

Btw another interesting factoid is Oswald's revolver was rechambered and not rebarrelled, meaning the bullets fired were difficult to link back to the original weapon, which leads to the question, why set up Oswald with a weapon of this type?? The only person who would use a weapon which could not be easily matched up to the gun would be a ruthless murderer who intended to have the least amount of linking evidence!

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