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Bullet mark on the manhole south side of Elm St.

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Marjan Rynkiewicz:
Here we can see the cabinet that Foster stood on.
The 2 yellow lines are Foster's view of the manhole, & his view of where Hickey's shot-2 possibly hit grass.



Royell Storing:

--- Quote from: Marjan Rynkiewicz on November 19, 2023, 12:07:48 AM ---Here we can see the cabinet that Foster stood on.
The 2 yellow lines are Foster's view of the manhole, & his view of where Hickey's shot-2 possibly hit grass.




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    Thanks for posting this overhead view of Dealey Plaza. I realize this is probably a pic taken the following day, but that is a very Large Stain inside the Parking Lot. That Large Stain is close to the very (N) end of the N-S section of the picket fence. Very close to the section of picket fence that the guy/kid is peering over on Towner 3. Whatever caused this Large Stain, could be what attracted that guy/kid's attention and enticed him to climb atop the picket fence. Also, per Skinny Holland during his Mark Lane walk-through, that parking lot was Jammed with cars on 11/22/63. There woulda been a vehicle parked/positioned where we now see that Large Stain.   

Marjan Rynkiewicz:

--- Quote from: Royell Storing on November 19, 2023, 10:34:34 PM ---    Thanks for posting this overhead view of Dealey Plaza. I realize this is probably a pic taken the following day, but that is a very Large Stain inside the Parking Lot. That Large Stain is close to the very (N) end of the N-S section of the picket fence. Very close to the section of picket fence that the guy/kid is peering over on Towner 3. Whatever caused this Large Stain, could be what attracted that guy/kid's attention and enticed him to climb atop the picket fence. Also, per Skinny Holland during his Mark Lane walk-through, that parking lot was Jammed with cars on 11/22/63. There woulda been a vehicle parked/positioned where we now see that Large Stain.

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Also, how could anyone on the tup be looking near the manhole in question when jfk was way way left in their field of view?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unless of course the proposition is that the shot(s) that hit grass/manhole were at near say Z400, ie when jfk was near the manhole.
The stain haztabe water, ie where there had been a rain puddle in the graveled carpark.
Judging by the shadows the pix was late arvo.
And the carpark would be near empty on Saturdays i think, or at least on Saturday arvos.
The fact that there are any cars at all must be due to the shooting on the Friday.
See the 2 big cabinets, near the splay, near lots of gawkers during the shots, & one of thems cabinets is where Hoffman says a tossee dissassembled a rifle, ie in full view of say 15 gawkers, including 2 cops.

Royell Storing:

--- Quote from: Marjan Rynkiewicz on November 19, 2023, 11:08:58 PM ---Also, how could anyone on the tup be looking near the manhole in question when jfk was way way left in their field of view?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unless of course the proposition is that the shot(s) that hit grass/manhole were at near say Z400, ie when jfk was near the manhole.
The stain haztabe water, ie where there had been a rain puddle in the graveled carpark.
Judging by the shadows the pix was late arvo.
See the 2 big cabinets, near the splay, near lots of gawkers during the shots, & one of thems cabinets is where Hoffman says a tossee dissassembled a rifle, ie in full view of say 15 gawkers, including 2 cops.

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   As I said, Holland told Mark Lane that the parking lot was jammed with cars. Probably parked in there every which way. This means that spot would have had a car over it that morning. No rain puddling in 1 single spot like that and the rest of the parking lot clean. I'm not a coincidence guy, so the proximity of that Large Spot to the Towner 3 guy/kid peering over the picket fence can Not be ignored. That Large Spot could easily be the result of a stray bullet(s). Remember that Gordon Arnold spoke of "report" going back-n-forth after he dove to the ground near the large tree back there. Connect the dots.

Marjan Rynkiewicz:
Can anyone see a divot in the turf at the manhole cover seen in Z386 to Z400?
I karnt see any obvious divot.


http://www.mountainrivercabins.com/JohnOrrReport.pdf
The other Zframes are no better than Z400 & Z393 below.


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